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edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 279
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post

I don't know if anyone remembers this thread from 2006, but it's now happening. Here's a before shot: <http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/4748.html?1119048182>

and now it's looking like this:


Edwinspray



Mica and the gang were great to work with and they came up with a really nice omega. In the back, there is a beautiful piece of Macassar ebony filling in the battery box:

back


I can't wait to get it back and play it again!
s_wood
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post

Beautiful! What's the top? Zebrawood?
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 280
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 5:06 pm:   Edit Post

Schedua. It was built in '78.

Edwin
byoung
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Username: byoung

Post Number: 935
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 5:37 pm:   Edit Post

Edwin,

If this is the bass with bad finish checking that I saw at the factory on Tuesday, then I'd like to put in my vote for some amber tint to make sure and restore the vintage vibe.

Bradley
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 5105
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post

FYI- this is not the bass you saw, Bradley.
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 281
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 9:51 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for thinking of my vintage vibe, but I am really looking forward to something a little more true to the wood. I've had it looking vintage for quite some time now and I think I'll have it long enough for it to be vintage all over again!

Edwin
byoung
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Username: byoung

Post Number: 938
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post

Edwin,

The current paint that they use doesn't yellow with UV exposure (aka age) like the older instruments did; Alembic uses a UV blocker now.

But I understand the sentiment. Definitely.

I'm sure you already figured this out, but that is one sweet, sweet looking bass. The Schedua top is really superb, and the Macassar Ebony filler is a neat touch (and looks vintage, thinking of the plates they used to cover the Modulus graphite necks).
s_wood
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Username: s_wood

Post Number: 266
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post

Schedua! Wow, I've never seen schedua like that.
Are you having the electronics upgrade done as well?
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 283
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post

You know, I've never noticed a problem with my electronics, they've been pretty quiet. I think it's going to be about all my wallet can handle to do this work, so I'll leave it at that for now, unless the elves of alembic take it upon themselves to do any work.

Edwin
s_wood
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Username: s_wood

Post Number: 267
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post

My experience matches exactly what Mica has told me about the upgrade: some basses need it badly, while others are pretty quiet without it. If you've got a quiet one, you're all set!
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6133
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 9:20 pm:   Edit Post

Looks great!
funkyjazzjunky
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Username: funkyjazzjunky

Post Number: 56
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post

Now I have a add Schedua to my "I wish I had that" list

Lovely bass
bassman10096
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Username: bassman10096

Post Number: 1077
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post

Cool idea. 30 years as a point. Now, a stretch as an omega. Dare I speculate that, by 2038 or so, it could morph into a Triple-O?

Looks like a nice bass for exactly the right makeover. Good luck with it and please post pix when it's completed.
Bill (the other one)
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 380
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post

Edwin
IMHO When everything changes, finish,electronics etc etc the SOUND changes as well
Maybe I'm just an old geek, but if the sound is good, altering one or more aspects of the instrument could have a radical change on the sound.---------For sound, READ Tone
I just think that, like my old 76, changes would alter the SWEETNESS of the tone
Ask KEAVIN---------he's got old #12
Just my 2 cents my friend

G
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 288
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post

G, I hear what you are saying. The thing is, it's all good. The sound of the bass was fine, but I think the old finish, which was very thick, inhibited the tone. I have really liked all the newer Alembics I've played, so I imagine the tone will change, but it won't be worse, just different and maybe better (hopefully better). Given that it can't be less than excellent means that to me, even if it does change, it will still be great! I'll be sure to let everyone know.

Edwin
PS I was really tempted to go with the oil finish because I love the tone of all my oil finish basses, but Mica pretty much explained how much better the regular finish protects the bass and that the tone shouldn't be that different.
s_wood
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Username: s_wood

Post Number: 268
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post

Hmmm...to my ears there is a pretty big difference between an oil finish and a poly gloss finish. To my ears, oil finishes impart a sound that is, well, oily. No joke intended: the sound seems slightly smothered, and the high-end response is reduced. However, to me the difference in tone caused by replacing a poly finish from the 70's with a modern one is fairly minimal. There may be a difference in tone, but I doubt it would be noticeable in a live or recorded mix.

A lot of the conventional wisdom about the magnitude of the change in tone caused by a refin comes from the time back in the 60's and 70's when "refin" meant replacing a nitrocellulose lacquer originally applied in the 50's or early 60's with a more modern poly finish. I totally agree that replacing a nitro finish with a poly finish will greatly influence the tone of the instrument, but the difference caused by replacing a modern poly gloss finish with another poly gloss finish is pretty subtle.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6171
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 5:20 pm:   Edit Post

Reminds me of the Red Violin.
georgie_boy
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Post Number: 388
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 1:32 am:   Edit Post

I think you are right in what you say Edwin & Steve.
I suppose I was thinking of the "old school" method.
Alembic will make it just perfect (as usual)
Keep us all posted

G
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 302
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post

Here's pic Mica sent me of the buffed out body.
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 303
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 5:40 pm:   Edit Post

Here's pic Mica sent me of the rubbed out body.

davehouck
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Post Number: 6315
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 6:22 pm:   Edit Post

Looking really nice!
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 319
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post

The finished bass arrived today and it looks simply stupendous. The folks in Santa Rosa did a spectacular job. I know a little further up we were discussing the potential tonal changes and the tone has changed, but for the better. Acoustically, it felt much more like it had a boxy, boinky tone, now it sounds smoother and more open. It also handles very nicely. The transition from the glossy finish to the matte finish is really nice. Having a good smooth finish on the neck really makes a huge difference. In some ways it feels like a different bass, but it still has the all the good qualities it always did. Just easier to play and a clearer sound. I'll take a few pics tomorrow and put them up. Then, next week we go on the road!

Thanks to all at Alembic for bringing to fruition how I always knew this instrument should be!

Edwin
5stringho
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Username: 5stringho

Post Number: 268
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post

Hey, Edwin!

Glad the project tuned out as well as it did. She looks great, can't wait to see the pics of the completed Bass. Enjoy her for many more years, good luck on the tour, and if you get close we'll try to come out and hear You and the Taxi!
Have fun, Mike, tho =]
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6351
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:54 pm:   Edit Post

Congrats! Looking forward to pics!
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 342
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post

I posted some pics at <http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/4748.html?1210632583>. They are a little scrambled up, but the bass is awesome. I'll be posting some live shots soon. A friend took some on my recent midwest tour, but the disc he burned for me didn't work out.

Edwin
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 343
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post

I posted some pics at <http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/4748.html?1210632583>. They are a little scrambled up, but the bass is awesome. I'll be posting some live shots soon. A friend took some on my recent midwest tour, but the disc he burned for me didn't work out.

Edwin
happy_face
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Username: happy_face

Post Number: 6
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 7:09 pm:   Edit Post

Doesn't compare well with your departed (DS's) EB-3, does it? ;)
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 345
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 9:14 pm:   Edit Post

Ah well, I have to admit that I've been perusing ebay for another EB-3.........

Edwin

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