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peoplechipper
Senior Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 501
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post

so today I got to try a rather unique pedal made by a friend of mine, who's company (union tube and transistor) makes the Bumble buzz for Third Man Records(Jack White), among other pedals; look 'em up, they do cool stuff...anyway, I tried a pedal today, called the Sone Bender, which blends the Tone Bender and a Fuzz Face; as he explained to me, the tonebender had a boost before the fuzz that gave great output, but hindered the ability to use guitar volume to clean up; the fuzz face interacted great with guitar volume but sounded horrible if anything else was before it, and tended to drop volume a bit when on...Chris managed to add the boost of the 'bender( but less) to the fuzz face circuit, but allow it all to work with buffered pedals anywhere in the rig; it cleans up really well with the volume like all the good old fuzzes...it's way beefier than some of the old ones too; yeah, I'm buying one...the crappy part is he's only making 30-40 of them; the Germanium transistors needed have an 80 percent rejection rate, so that's a lotta money to throw away to make a pedal...I don't know if they'res sound bites of it on their site, but maybe if we all pestered him he might make more...his Sub Buzz bass fuzz is cool too...
tmoney61092
Senior Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 936
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post

that sounds pretty sweet! I've recently started building my own pedals, so far I've done a

-Tone Bender Sola Sound Clone which is a great fuzz but not a tone of bottom end
-Digital Reverb that sounds FANTASTIC(I play through a Bassman head so a reverb was a MUST)
-Delay which is digital but sounds exactly like an analog and behaves the same
-Tycobrahe Octavia Clone which is a cool fuzz that adds an octave up and gets these crazy robot tones
-EHX Rams Head Big Muff which is the end all be all of Fuzzes for me, absolutely love this thing
-Maestro Brassmaster Clone which is a great noise making pedal and is cool because it allows you to blend in the clean instrument
-MXR Phase 45 Clone that has an almost Univibe type quality to it

currently I'm working on doing a ProCo Rat and a Foxx Tone Machine which is another fuzz/octave up effect that sounds awesome

~Taylor
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5874
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post

I built a couple BYOC pedals. Very satisfying.

Bill, tgo
pauldo
Senior Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 1323
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 2:09 pm:   Edit Post

Are there kits for building your own? Or should I just run down to American Science and Surplus - they have everything!(http://www.sciplus.com/) Buy some capacitors/ resistors/ switches and knobs and throw it in an aluminum box?

:-\
tmoney61092
Senior Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 937
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 2:27 pm:   Edit Post

Generalguitargadgets.com has grey kits that come with everything including wire, pots, pcb, enclosure, etc. but you can also be adventurous and find a pedal you want to make and look up the parts for it and go for it(not recommended :p )

I like building my own effects because as Bill said it's very satisfying and also you can build a pedal that sells for $500 for about $70

~Taylor
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5875
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post

Paul:

Check out buildyourownclone.com.

Bill, tgo
peoplechipper
Senior Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 502
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post

I have an original Foxx fuzz wah; if you ever wanted a pedal to TAKE OVER EVERYTHING, this is that pedal...not great for dynamics, but the fuzz output is huge and mated with the wah is like shrimp n' grits...I should check out that site, but the last thing I need is more pedals; at least I could say I made it myself...Tony
pauldo
Senior Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 1325
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 6:16 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Taylor and Bill - now that motorcycle season is winding down I can aggravate my wife by tinkering on pedals instead of two wheels!!!!
:-D
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 1242
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 2:59 pm:   Edit Post

I'd highly recommend guitarpcb.com. I've bought boards from them and built many pedals for myself and friends. It's a great hobby. I've also built some pedals from BYOC, but I like sourcing the parts myself because it's a little cheaper.
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 1243
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 5:18 am:   Edit Post

I'd also mention that if you do decide to source your own parts Small Bear Electronics is a great site to buy them. After you register you can save a set of components for a pedal in a library. Anytime you want to build it again you just select that build and click "order." You can also start populating the build while you are researching component values, vintage capacitor codes, finding germanium transistors, etc. Very helpful.
peoplechipper
Senior Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 503
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2014 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post

When I tried the Sone Bender I also tried the Electro Harmonix B9, which emulates a Hammond b3; my jaw hit the floor as it sounds like keyboardists losing their jobs...for sure I'm getting one, as it would be so cool for the occasional song intro or outro; haven't heard a bass through it yet, but if it's like the POG, it'll sound even better...Tony.
peoplechipper
Senior Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 505
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post

So I bought the E-H B9 today and it is awesome; it works with bass too, but they warn that below certain notes it tracks poorly...it actually tracks low notes better than they say it will but does seem better with guitar. It is SOOO cool; I've never had so much fun just playing Em to Am chords and such...it's so cool to play guitar and hear an awesome organ with leslie; maybe the best inspiration pedal I've ever gotten...Tony

Ps. Chris might make some more Sone Benders, as the demand seems to be more than the few left, if there are any...
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5896
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post

Playing organ with guitar is a blast. With my GR-33, I play guitar and organ at the same time.

Bill, tgo
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3739
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post

I have heard Bill's GR-33 organ sound , it's actually rather amazing !
jcdlc72
Advanced Member
Username: jcdlc72

Post Number: 397
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 7:14 am:   Edit Post

+1 on the GR33 thing!!! I have a "Roland Ready" Mex strat hooked to the GR33, and made -badly- myself a two-tier wooden "pedalboard". The upper tier holds the GR33. Under it, are the power supplies on an AC strip, an active 2-channel DI box, and an Art Tube MP, which is fed with the "Guitar only" signal from the GR33, to add some colour and a little boost. From there, it goes to the "lower tier", which holds a DigiTech RP2000, which then processes the "guitar only" signal. From there it goes out in stereo back to the GR33 guitar return, and then the GR33 output goes to the stereo DI box, ready for a couple XLR lines to the mixing board. Since I use full-range sounds and mix them from the guitar itself, I go direct to the board, no amps. Sometimes Ive had to do the work of musicians who failed to show, and assign a bass patch to strings 6 and 5, or fade in/out some keyboard sounds using the GR33 pedal, layering with the guitar sounds, or simply adding some textures. Nice and fun, and gets out of the house somewhat frequently, although not my main guitar work or sound whatsoever (In fact, Im more of the old-school "huge guitar racks" way of thinking, and use -at least primarily for recording- a rather complex W/D/W rack setup, and if going live, its either a small, cheapo DigiTech RP50 for those small, cheapo gigs -the majority- where I end up going direct to the board and nobody will -unfortunately- notice any difference, or a Boss GT-3 for some "little bit higher-level" gigs, either to the board or an amp. Ive not used my pedals board on stage for YEARS! -nor my beloved rack setup, for that case). With the bass is somewhat the same. 4-space rack setup plus power amp for a nice, accurate sound, which almost never leaves the house, Boss GT6-B for most common gigs running into the board and whatever the backline provides, and even a small Korg AX3-B for the smallest gigs, if any gadget is needed -when not going "plain-.
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4303
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post

I bought GR33 for my guitar when I was touring working with Apache Indian to use the Asian and other ethnic patches on some of the songs. The only thing I really disliked about the Roland is that the guitar only sound that came via the 13pin plug was shockingly bad and took out the meat of my sound. I emailed Roland and they pointed me to their rep at a local music shop. He told me that if you use the 13pin cable to transfer the guitar signal to the floor unit, it is digitised so that it can be mixed with the synth sounds for output and the AD/DA signal is what comes out of the GR33 guitar jack socket. So I decided to use two cables taped together. Guitar out via standard Jack lead to my pedal board then guitar amp and the synth only sound from the GR33 to DI or another amp. It's more fiddly balancing the guitar and synth sound levels but the guitar signal is back to what it should be.
peoplechipper
Senior Member
Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 506
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post

The B9 has a blend knob, but I had it at full organ(heh heh, he said organ)as I wanted to hear the sounds; I'll try blending the guitar and organ sounds later to see how well it works...truly amazing for something that fits in a Hammond box, and needs no guitar mods...Tony.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5898
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2014 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post

Tony, I was curious about that blend knob. I'll be looking forward to your report on how well it works allowing you to play both guitar and organ at the same time. With the GR-33, I find that I can hit a chord that will fill out the organ sound, then add little arpeggio type flourishes that are heard in the guitar signal but still sound like the chord on the organ side, if that makes any sense.

Bill, tgo

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