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mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:12 am:   Edit Post

Hallo.to all.Finally I have an Alembic bass.Is an alembic Europa 1991 model with Koa front finish.I bought it used for $2750.It is in ex codition like never played before.I would like to ask if anyone knows the sound differences between the MXY pickups of a Europa and the AXY (ex.Spoiler)
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:23 am:   Edit Post

Here is a pictureALEMBIC EUROPA
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 668
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:34 am:   Edit Post

Hi Daffy,
Congratulations on the new bass, & welcome to the board.
AXYs & MXYs are the same pickup cast in different size shells.

Peter
gregduboc
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Username: gregduboc

Post Number: 376
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:35 am:   Edit Post

Congratulations and welcome to the club Daffy!
If it helps, here is an explanation on the Europa controls, and here the ones for the Spoiler controls. This gives you some info on the tone shaping capabilities of each of the electronics. I leave a more detailed explanation to a more expert member!

Greg
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:39 am:   Edit Post

Thanks a lot for your Help.
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1086
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:41 am:   Edit Post

Welcome :-)

Looks very nice, congrats!

I have AXY, MXY and P/J pickups and they all sound like... Alembic :-)
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 4
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:45 am:   Edit Post

fc_spoiler does the AXY sound more 'bass' than the MXY (sorry for my english)
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1087
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post

It's difficult to say because they're on different basses, but I would say they all sound about the same.

As CC wrote: "AXYs & MXYs are the same pickup cast in different size shells"
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 5
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:53 am:   Edit Post

Thanks again to all.I hope someday to find money for an ALEMBIC spoiler and a WAL MK2 bass
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 6
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 9:18 am:   Edit Post

FC hallo again.Where do you buy the alembic picups.I am intrested to buy for an IBANEZ ST824 bass.
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1088
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post

Hi again :-)

Most of them came with the basses :-)
The ones in my Fender came from the local used market.
I bought them all seperate: First the P pickup, then the J pickup and then the electronics (Volume, Filter and Q switch)

You can buy them direct from Alembic and I think they can make you custom pickupshells that will fit in your Ibanez, used it will be hard (or impossible I guess) to find... (unless they have the same dimensions as the AXY, or you are willing to use a router)
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 9:54 am:   Edit Post

Thanks fc.The pickups of the fender i mean.I think that to buy new pickups from alembic its expensive so I waiting for used.I hope someday to find.
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1886
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post

You have a lovely bass. I own an Europa 5 string and it sounds great. I have to say I haven't seen many four string versions of that bass.
Enjoy playing it welcome to the alembic sound.
Jazzyvee
pace
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Username: pace

Post Number: 508
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 1:33 pm:   Edit Post

Daffy,

That's a beautiful Europa... play it in good health! My Elan Plus has the same circuit, except it has Jazz Bass pickups instead of MXY's.

As far as the difference between AXY and MXY pickups, don't let the size fool you... they both have the same size bobbins, magnet, and coil windings. The AXY's mold just has more epoxy~ and that's done mainly for aesthetic reasons (to look more like a Series I or II pickup).
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9176
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post

Beautiful bass! Congrats and welcome to the board!
coastaltony
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Username: coastaltony

Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 7:33 pm:   Edit Post

poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 84
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post

Kind of a confusing post, but I believe the most interesting possibility is how the pool cues are related to the thread and the one Europa fiver shown and the gaggle of Gibsons, et.al behind them - not to mention all the pool queue cases which may have greatest significance of all. Welcome Tony, and 'sup?
eligilam
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Username: eligilam

Post Number: 238
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 7:02 am:   Edit Post

I've got to get me an Eagle or a Mockingbird. The more of those I see, the more I want one. Oh, and a Europa, too.
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1887
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post

Costaltony is your europa back plate gold plated?
I have one just like that and it is gold plated. I'm not sure if that was standard when made or an addition done by a previous owner.


Jazzyvee
coastaltony
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Username: coastaltony

Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2010
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, both plates are plated
wideload
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Username: wideload

Post Number: 147
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post

Tony, you won't believe this, but I was thinking of my old RD Artist just this morning! Quite possibly the only one with a California Rodeo sticker in captivity. Hope all is well with you and your basses. Larry
coastaltony
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Username: coastaltony

Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2010
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 5:05 pm:   Edit Post

Larry, WOW!!! I think of you every time I walk into my office. That RD is a KILLER machine. With new Roto's on it, she screams. I've using two 200W Orange amps each driving two Orange 4x12 cabs. Thanks a LOT for helping me out back then.
alembickoa
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Username: alembickoa

Post Number: 80
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post

Always loved those Europas...congrats!!!
gtrguy
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Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 288
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post

An old Eagle or Mockingbird is truly a great playing and sounding instrument. The active switch adds nothing to the tone but some extra volume though. They sound fine passive.
briant
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Username: briant

Post Number: 408
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post

jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1890
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 2:46 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Mumra, you may find these of interest.
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jazzyvee
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 10
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post

Hallo jazzyvee .I have seen this pickups yesterday.Thanks a lot for your help.I'll try to bought them.
mumra
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Username: mumra

Post Number: 11
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 9:55 am:   Edit Post

Hallo again to all.Does anyone knows how can I clean the brass parts of the bass?
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4360
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post

Daffy:

Alembic suggests using Flitz Metal Polish which is available in the Alembic Store. That, and some elbow grease, usualy does the trick. For really bad tarnishing, I use Flitz with a dremel tool.

Bill, the guitar one
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 1052
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post

Be aware that generally the tailpiece, truss cover and backplate (if brass) are usually coated and polishing will likely remove the coating.
gtrguy
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Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 290
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post

The clear is a bitch to remove. No stripper I have will touch it. You just have to sand or steel wool it off. The good news is that you can clean it up after sanding (fine grit wet sand paper, 1000 - 1500 - 2000, and then polish) and make sure no resudue is left on it (I use automotive wax and grease reomver) and then rattle-can a clear coat on it and it looks great.

Bye,
Dave

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