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jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1659
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 9:31 am:   Edit Post

At last. I did say a few years ago that I would post some photo's of my smart car loaded with my bass rig?
Well at long last and after some gently reminding from Bill tgo, I decided to put the stuff in the car today and take some photo's.

So here we go.
This is a Standard Smart for two Pure with 3 cylinder 600cc engine. Inside is a two mesa boogie powerhouse cabs 1x15 and 2x10, a flightcase containing my Mesa-boogie walkabout with compressor limiter and also my Europa 5 in it's standard case. Oh yes the drivers seat is clear as you can see for me to sit. I'm about 5'11 and the drivers seat is just pushed forward slightly in order to get the cab behind my seat and the passenger seat is much further forward than normal.
FYI, the passenger seats on smart cars have more travel since in normal position it is slightly behind that of the driver so to face the passenger you would have to look slightly behind and to the left.

Ok photo's.




All the best
Jazzyvee
sonicus
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Post Number: 335
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post

Yeah !!!!!!! for little hatchbacks. Cool. My next car will be a little hatchback.
lmiwa
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post

And since it's about the same size as your average hand cart, you can just drive it up on stage, open the hatch, plug it in, and start playing! :-)
sonicus
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post

ya call that a tail gate gig.
keith_h
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Post Number: 1381
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post

The steering wheel is on the wrong side. ;-)

I must admit I'm impressed with the hauling capacity.

Keith
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1660
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post

Its a great little runner, never had any problems with it. I get it serviced and tested once a year. The engine is actually underneath the two mesa boogie cabs.
It's a bit cramped in the front with all that gear inside but for a short trip across town it;s ok. I wouldn't go on a long drive with it packed up so much. Just a shame I can't plug those two cabs into the in-car stereo!!!


It is interesting when the punters see me taking my stuff outside and realise it all fits into a smart car......


Jazzyvee
bigyouth
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post

Very niše Picture Jazzyvee!
Small car with a Big sound
serialnumber12
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Post Number: 525
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post

How tall are you jazzy? (leg room???)........i'm 6'3 & would have a hard time fitting my long legs / big Blue alembic bass case in such a tight spot!
byoung
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Post Number: 1238
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 3:28 pm:   Edit Post

Jazzy,

I think this is one of the best threads ever.

Thanks for posting.

Bradley
lbpesq
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Post Number: 4083
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 4:05 pm:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee:

I was going to suggest that you return the Smartcar to the dealer as it is defective .. they put the steering wheel in wrong, but Keith beat me to it. I would be cool to get a power converter, wire up the rig, open the hatch, plug in and play! Great Britain's answer to the Bose P.A.S. cylindrical radiator! I'll have to show this to the other guitar player in my band who recently bought a Honda Element to haul all his equipment around. Thanks for the pics. As they say, the best things are worth waiting for

Bill, tgo
toma_hawk01
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Username: toma_hawk01

Post Number: 37
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 4:42 pm:   Edit Post

I love that car!

With multiple cameras installed, someday, we would be able to make remote delivers without ever needing to enter the car. Remote driving, will be a reality someday.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on September 11, 2009)
davehouck
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Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee; does the hatch close? Looks like the speakers are sticking out from here. But I'm impressed; and I love it! Very, very cool!!

What size shoehorn does it take?

Bill; Honda Elements look like they were designed to hall band equipment around. Great cargo area.
jazzyvee
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Post Number: 1661
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post

Hi Dave, the hatch does indeed close. I usually cover them with a thick blanket to prevent the corners knocking on the windows as the cabs can bounce a bit during driving and I don't want to crack or smash the glass. in any case showing a pic with the hatch closed wouldn't prove the stuff was in there hahah.

Keavin I'm 5'11 so a shortie compared to you. Although my friend's son is 6'4" and is comfortable in the passenger side. Driver side you may find it a little short on leg room.
jakebass
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Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Jazzy, great to see all that gear in such a tiny car, I have a pianist/arranger friend in London Simon Whiteside, he is easily 6'4 and a very big guy, it impresses me that he and his 88 note keyboard show up in a Smart just like yours. Hats off for thinking of your environmental impact.
Jake
dadabass2001
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Post Number: 1270
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 8:00 am:   Edit Post

I'm in process of switching from a '99 Mercury Sable station wagon to a '06 Chevy Cobalt 4-door coupe. I don't have it yet, but I took measurements and should be able to fit all but my largest 1-15 (an old Crate B-15) into the vehicle.
Thanks for the pics, Jazzy.
Mike
pas
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Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 8:18 am:   Edit Post

Creatively well done.

Personally, I prefer a great deal more armor between myself & the populace at large...better safe than sorry.

That thing may not use much in the way of fuel, but if someone hit you, I think it'd crumple like a piece of used tissue paper.

Here's hoping the auto gods are looking out over you... :-)
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1666
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 5:52 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Pas, I went through that thought years ago before I considered buying the car and did a lot of on-line research on the safety aspect of the car, checked the encap site and the crash test statistics etc and as a result I felt confident in buying the car. I have been driving since 1979 and no one has ever run into me on the road, and i have never ran into anyone else so i also figured why is that suddenly gonna change because I have a small car.

Anyway so far, so good. In fact like you I've always preferred more metal between me and other idiot's on the road too. I have always had larger cars, by UK Standards anyway, and do have another larger car which I use more often for gigs these days unless I'm carrying a small guitar rig. Nowadays I wouldn't fill the car up like that.

Although I've been to Amsterdam and back in my smart car, it's really geared to being a town car and for running about town it's been a great car and saved me shed loads in petrol.

Not that I'm a sales person but check this out.
Smart vs Ferrari
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1NAMnYKM
Smart vs Lamborgini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niP0_56Hyns

And with a slight modification.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJffTGTDWdY&feature=related

Jazzyvee
mario_farufyno
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Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 6:06 pm:   Edit Post

This reminds me when I saw a friend puting his upright in a VW Beetle...

*(but in this case it had to travel with headstok getting out trough passenger's window although the car is bigger)
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 848
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 6:20 pm:   Edit Post

"And with a slight modification.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJffTGTDWdY&feature=related"


...Donuts!



Wow, reminds me of abusing golf carts as a kid.
mario_farufyno
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Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 6:44 pm:   Edit Post

Oh, look that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOgFPOG-fsY&feature=related

Smart custom
jacko
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Post Number: 2417
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 4:30 am:   Edit Post

How's the fuel consumption Jazzy? I have a Skoda Octavia estate and I carry my rig (2x12, 4x10 and 6 space rack) plus the band's PA speakers - a pair of stand mounted powered 12" wharfedales plus one of the monitors, aswell as 2 basses and a few bags of cables etc. On a recent trip from edinburgh up to Skye, I averaged 58.7 mpg which I thought was amazing considering the weight in the car - all that lot plus mrs J and luggage.
Occasionally i need to put the roofbox on to transport the lighting rig too but that brings down the fuel consumption a fair bit to around 50mpg.

Graeme
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1672
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post

I haven't checked my average for ages but it takes about 7 gallons of petrol and i get usually between 420 to 450 miles out of that on combined town and motorway.

I did drive from Brum to Amsterdam and back about 3 yrs ago and did it just over 2 tanks of petrol.

The downside of it for me is just that It could do with more power when pulling off and overtaking but no more on the top end. Going up any kind of incline on a motorway slows you down by about 15 to 20mph depending on how steep and who is the passenger.

jazzyvee
jazzyvee
toma_hawk01
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post

Mario, I love those kits. But in honesty, if other cars have more steel, "I WANT MORE STEEL TOO..."

Forget speed... Give me a slow moving tank, and I'll just pay general liability for the other guy if I am at fault... :-)
lbpesq
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Post Number: 4085
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post

I suspect the Smart Kit Cars on Youtube are really photo-shopped. I don't believe the smart engine has the torque to effectively power such large wheels.

Bill, tgo
keith_h
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Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 4:52 pm:   Edit Post

However I bet a person could make a few bucks selling kits like that to the Shriners.

Keith
jazzyvee
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Post Number: 1673
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 2:48 am:   Edit Post

Yeah I've seen those kit car pics before they are fakes.
Jazzyvee
terryc
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Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 3:49 am:   Edit Post

Nice packing jazzy, mind you I could get the following in a Escort hatchback
2 x Peavey Hys 500 cabs(big heavy ones with 15" BW drivers and stands
Peavey XR 600 mixer amp
Peavey Eurosys wedge monitors
Peavey Unity 16 channel desk
Peavey DPC700 digital power amp
3 mike stands
Mic case
Cable box(ex BT folded lid type)
Peavey TNT 115 bass combo
Alembic MK in case
Gig bag
and fianlly me

No wonder it failed it's MoT on broken suspension..now gone to car park in the sky and I don't do PA anymore..thank God!!
jcdlc72
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Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 5:15 am:   Edit Post

Awesome! Just as classy as getting into a gig with an Alembic bass :P
benson_murrensun
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Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post

A bass, small amp and some sundry gig-bag items can fit on my Harley GeezerGlide...

But I think that modded Smart Car would blow it into the weeds.
jazzyvee
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Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 5:26 am:   Edit Post

A hot rodded smart car like those would be great if you kept it looking standard. It's so funny when I pull alongside guys in bigger faster cars at the lights and get off the mark before them. They do absolutely anything to get past me..... Worse on the motorway, coming up behind a car in the fast lane and flashing them to move over, once I get alongside them they realise they are going to be overtaken by the smallest car on the road, they put their foot down.




Jazzyvee
lbpesq
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Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 8:28 am:   Edit Post

Smart car.

Dumb drivers.

lol

Bill, tgo
gregduboc
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Post Number: 255
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post

Alright!
Monday, I had to go to a rehearsal. But I had to give a ride to a friend of mine, but she insisted that I pick her up with my Smart car. The thing is, were was I going to put my bass?
And thats when I discovered. You can put an Exploiter in a gig bag behind the seats, and still keep a lot of free room in the trunk.



The thing is, the pointy end of the Exploiter fits perfectly behind the driver seat, and it stays in position perfectly, because it "seats" in the car just like it would on a leg. Perfectly. Honestly, I was amazed, so I decided to jump in and compliment this thread



Greg
gregduboc
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post

Oh, and I forgot to mention.
I was able to take the bass, the ride, and do it all, with the top down. Cool, isn't it?



Greg
jazzyvee
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post

You could have probably strapped it vertically to either of the seats too or even the roll bar. An option I don't have in my hard top.

Oh to have the guaranteed weather for a convertible... It's wet dreary and cold in England at the moment. Not ideal.

Jazzyvee
dluxe
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Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 6:15 am:   Edit Post

Back in the 1970's I could fit my Sunn 215 cabinet in the back seat of my Chevy Vega. Put the Coliseum head in the trunk and my bass in the passenger seat. I still have the Coliseum head but the Vega started smoking the rings in the early 1980's.
gregduboc
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 6:26 am:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee, actually, I have to put it that way exactly because of non-guaranteed weather! Here in summer(yup, it's summer now, and it is damn hot...), it sometimes rains out of nothing, so I need the ability to close it immediately...!

Greg
alembic76407
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post

Greg, is that your Maserati in the corner of the photo, 3200GT perhaps
gregduboc
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post

Well Charles, you have a good eye for cars!
It's a 4200GT, no turbos, only a bad ass, Ferrari Modena derived V8. But I guess you know what I'm talking about!
It is half mine half my dad's (He pays, I use. Couldn't be better).

Greg

(Message edited by gregduboc on December 17, 2009)
cozmik_cowboy
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Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 7:35 pm:   Edit Post

"He pays, I use. Could be better."

How?!?!? Beats "I pay, he uses." I'll happily drive any Maserati anybody else wants to pay for! :-)

Peter
gregduboc
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 5:34 am:   Edit Post

Ops, I meant "couldn't", my bad. Let me edit that!!

Greg
alembic76407
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post

Greg, next post down. sorry

(Message edited by alembic76407 on December 17, 2009)
alembic76407
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 1:10 pm:   Edit Post

Greg, Yes I'm a hard core car nut!!! I'm on my third Porsche,

here is some EYE CANDY for you
http://www.luxury4play.com/automotive/36568-worlds-most-beautiful-garages-exotics-insane-garage-picture-thread-50-pics.html?source=9593&source=9593
pierreyves
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 2:03 pm:   Edit Post

well, well, well... all these things are nice .. last week I saw a lot of people who were searching their food on rubish case on the road...
Jazzyvee, you are really funny and practical, ecological too with your road set !! :-)
lbpesq
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post

Charles:

Sweet pics! I believe I see my car in the second to last photo. On the left there appears to be an old Vette? Behind it is a yellow convertible with just the front end sticking out. It's hard to tell for sure, but I think it's a 50's Mercedes 220s Cabriolet. I have a '59 that I just got running for the first time in 5 or 6 years.

Bill, tgo
pauldo
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post

Pierre - Gleaners?
I know gleaning is legal in France - is that the case in Switzerland also?

or am I misinterpretting your post?
gregduboc
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 8:02 pm:   Edit Post

Charles, thanks for that... Now I feel insignificant...! :-)
Some great stuff, including Bill's Mercedes!! :-)
Ok, enough with the smiling faces..

Greg
gregduboc
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Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2009 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post

Pierre, I don't know if I understood your post...
Are you trying to say that the garages are nice, and that somehow the most fortunate ones are related to the misery of others?
Please explain properly.

Greg
pierreyves
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post

I explain ass I can with my english, not easy for me to write "PROPERLY" here. You have well understood, I spoke about this link:
http://www.luxury4play.com/
Pauldo, gleaners ? signifie mendiants ? yes we have a lot in Geneva until border is open now for people from east of Europe (Romania, Hungary etc.).It's not legal in Switzerland.
But it's not the problem what I spoke, properly I hope... I spoke about people in north Africa (I travel a lot in Morocco because my wife is from Marrakech, see my website http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=995
and:
http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/faune_maroc.htm
http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/faune_ourika.htm
etc... and I saw all days in this country, poor people who search somme food in rubbish case (poubelles). I saw a lot of big car too as Touareg, Porshe ayenne !!! The contrast is for me difficult. The north african society is like that, really poor people or very rich people, without transition as in USA or Europe.
lbpesq
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post

Pierre:

So, you like reptiles? I've been into reptiles since I started catching snakes in summer camp when I was a kid (or, more accurately, when I was a much younger kid than I am now!). Currently, we have an African Leopard Tortoise ("Fillmore") and an Australian Water Dragon ("Norbert"). Though not a reptile, we also have a South American Lungfish ("Luna"), that's very cool.

Bill, tgo
mario_farufyno
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post

I'm always insecure to join some deeper discussions, since I can't express myself good in English. But sometimes we have to make a try, specially when I see good people trying to make good so awkward...

It looks like Pierre is just trying to be our social conciousness and we should be glad about that. As a socialist, myself, I'm glad that you are trying to show us all political implications on being wealthy. I solidarize with you on all that, but you must be aware to not behave like the guy who came to a dinner talking about the hunger in world.

Why operate on guilty?

It reminds me a Luis Bu˝uel's movie (Via Lactea) where a priest is trying to stop children to laugh saying: "How can you be happy if Jesus died in cross for you?!?"... Wow, man, that's deep! I should commit suicide for feeling good with myself.

Pierre-Yves, remember that you're are not the only person here with that concerns. I must believe that all of our brothers here are sensible to social issues. But we're not here to push each others to scaffold. Is ease to tease any Alembic owner to feel bad about having a thousand dollars Bass, but what's the point?

How do you feel about having such Bass collection? How many people you could have saved with all this Series you have? I've had to wait 25 years to save enough money to buy a second hand Rogue... Should I see you as a bourgeois responsible for world's pain?

My parents were tortured because they were comunists and fought against reactionary dictatorship in Brazil and I've always got mad when met someone trying to makes me feel bad about having a car or banc account. I'm not wealthy at all, but in Brazil you are taken as "rich" just for having a 1000cc car or for having studied on good schools (in some places, you are enough fortunate just for being "citzien"). As professional musician I've been playing with people who came from slum and you almost have to "excuse" yourself just for not being poor (or black)... Sorry man, I don't get that bs.

May be it should be more pratical (to not say, polite) to start some threads about all that non-alembic related issues as global warming and famines around the world, instead of hijacking some other guy's thread. You could gather our simpathy and solidarity best. Do you wish to help people? Good! Make something and invite us to give a hand...

But I can't see your political strategy (or wisdom) on getting in a forum like that spreading irony on your fellows. We can argue for days on how much each of us are responsible or related to other's misery... Or we can join ourselves to make some difference. Anyway, I don't think this particular thread is the right spot, don't you think?

We all support your concerns, but you could try to enhance the way you put it. Start some thread on this subject and I will try to take part. I suggest start with how today europe's wealth were built on slavery in americas or on exploring third world. Or how Switzerland suported illegal business around the world with your bank sistem... We should be concerned more on how the sistem works and not with each individual take part on that (well, we can, but this is not a true sollution). I can't think that I will solve problems pointing my finger upon someone who have a fancy car or feeding one single hungry person in the street. Making things that particular doesn't helps.

But, again, thanks for caring. This is what makes us human beings (just remember that we are, too).
gregduboc
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post

I agree with Mario. Although I have a very big opinion to show here, and plenty of things to say that may offend someone or not,I won't. In respect for this tread.

Greg
davehouck
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 9:02 am:   Edit Post

[At this time the moderator wishes to note that the posting guidelines suggest that, for reasons stated in the guidelines, there are other forums more suitable than the Alembic club for the discussion of politics.]
the_jester
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post

You are my Hero Mario.

Thank you for you sharing your heart.
mario_farufyno
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post

You are right Dave, sorry.
the_jester
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post

If you want a million dollar house, car, life style it's all here baby. I say enjoy it, -- it's here for the taking...

I'll never believe in the pretext of suffering in this life, and be rewarded in heaven while the other guy have all the fun. My faith accept wealth and charity. As long as you are giving back, the Sun will continue to shine. Knowing how to catch fish, is more important than knowing how to add seasoning. You can't live on seasoning.

Peace and Love



(Message edited by the_jester on December 18, 2009)
davehouck
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post

Hal. A few posts up the moderator may have been a bit too subtle in his suggestion. I think what he was trying to say was drop this line of discourse now. Of course, I think he sometimes gets so subtle that it can be difficult to understand what he's getting at.
davehouck
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post

Mario; no problem. And thank you.
the_jester
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post

Dave,

If this was a discussion on getting drunk and fancy whiskey, beer or regional places to buy blends cola's, you'll find nothing wrong right?

Mario made a touch-down and your striping his validation of what came from his heart. I am not sorry for bringing this action in to question.

I'll halt my comments with respect to this request.

Peace and Love -

(Message edited by the_jester on December 18, 2009)
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 499
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post

Is it possible to say my opinion ? I was not offensÚ, It was just my opinion.
Ok as said by mario, my english is too poor to explain properly for deep subject.
For the cars, It was just my opinion, not need to speak about this. Each time I said something, great earthquake here.
For Bill, here are my snakes:
http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1092
and
http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1101
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9042
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post

Hal; if I understand your question correctly, then yes, you're within the ballpark. I do not consider discussions of the qualitative differences of aged whiskeys in a musicians forum populated largely by people who play in bar bands, to be the same as a political discussion. And please note that I do spend considerable amounts of time every day on political issues; but not here. I spend hours every day reading and participating in political discussions. I frequently write to and call my Representative, Senators, and President about issues that I deeply care about, including two "strongly worded" letters to the President just yesterday. But not here. I have phone-banked, fund-raised, protested in the streets, and spent money I did not have to spend to try to effect political change in this country. But not here. For me personally, this place here is my refuge from politics. I know from every day experience and participation how emotionally vehement political discussions can be, even among those who have closely similar views. For me personally it can be extremely and deeply heart-achingly painful. And knowing this fact so well, as moderator I do not want this place to be like the other site I spend so much time on.

This board has posting guidelines. There are people here whom I like and respect a lot, whom I think of as valued members of this board, with whom I may have some or many political differences. It seems evident to me that generally most of us here value our friendships here to the extent that we find these posting guidelines to be appropriate for this board.

It is certainly understandable that you are "not sorry for bringing this action in to question". But this board has posting guidelines, and the vast majority of the members here find it reasonable that these guidelines should be followed. So if you want to bring any future actions to question, please do so by email.
mario_farufyno
Advanced Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 386
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post

[off topic]

Pierre-Yves you should come to Brazil. We got here a viper called "Jararaca Ilhoa" (Bothrops insularis - something like "vipŔre d'isle") that just exists on a single island near coast and are considered brazilian's most dangerous snake. It is a light brown, very intriguing snake. As they live isolated, they are hermaphrodite. Butantan Institute's resarchers are willing to make a new medicines similar to the Capoten with its venom. The problem is that they are endangered and bio-pirates started to steal them now.

(Message edited by Mario Farufyno on December 18, 2009)
mario_farufyno
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Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 387
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 5:30 pm:   Edit Post

Hal, thanks for the compliment, but Dave is fully right. We will quickly dead as a Comunity if we move to some issues that touches us that deep. It is wiser to focus on what makes us closer as we can get very passionate on politics or religion. If guidelines were created to settle earthquakes down, lets stick to them.

Anyway, I prefer chating face-to-face if I need to say something strong or controvertial. Some subjects are better trade if you can show your eyes and face expression (specially if you, as me and Pierre, are not fluent on current language).

I've learned so many things here that I care much about our board. For that sake I can joyfully shut myself up on some themes. Not a big deal if this prevent us breaking apart. This is not censorship, this is respect. Imo...
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 500
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 4:37 am:   Edit Post

[off topic] for Mario: Brasil is too far, I hate jet !! :-) but I would like to go to Pantanal....
I know Bothrops insularis, but I don't know he was hermaphrodite. He live on Ilha da Queimada Grande.
Thank's for the post. Sorry Dave for off topic post :-)
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 501
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 5:02 am:   Edit Post

Here is my car, enough big to transport my gear!



jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2533
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 6:39 am:   Edit Post

Pierreyves, Bill and Mario. I've also been interested in Reptiles all my life and keep snakes. In the house we have my son's corn snake, my royal python (approx 4feet) and my Boa Constrictor (approx 9feet). When I get a chance I'll take some pics and start a new thread.

Graeme
serialnumber12
Senior Member
Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 622
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 6:59 am:   Edit Post

Cadillacs arent Eco friendly but the room is needed while loading the drums too
pauldo
Advanced Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 377
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 7:33 am:   Edit Post

My Jeep Wrangler (93 YJ) isn't eco friendly either.

When I travel with my upright during cold weather and the top is up I need to remove the passenger seat to get it to fit!
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4237
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 8:28 am:   Edit Post

My Miata gets better mileage (& is more fun to drive), but our Highlander hauls a LOT more equipment!

Pierre: Striking snakes! Are the ones in the first link Hognose snakes?

Bill, tgo
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 502
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 8:52 am:   Edit Post

lol !!! it's a topic about what at the end ? :-)
I find it funny !! Mixed topic with eco cars, eco gear, eco snakes !!!
Bill, my snakes are adders, horned adders from Europe (Spain & Greece), they are venomous. Hognose is non venomous, colubrid snake from USA, we bred hognose in europe too.
The second link show a copperhead or cottonmouth family snake (Agkistrodon), dangerous, fast & furious, but very nice, who lives in north Mexico.
All my animals are captive bred. I give to eat only dead mouse.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4238
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post

Pierre:

Ever been bit by one of them?

Bill,tgo
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 503
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 9:55 am:   Edit Post

Bill,
yes when I was 20, three times!
One with copperhead from Florida (the most pain I never feel, very painfully bite), one with european adder, one with very dangerous african adder.
Nothing, arm and hand with pain and just one finger wich is distorded (?) but no problem to play bass fortunately !!
the_jester
Junior
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 23
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post

Diamond in the back,
sun-roof-top,
digging in the scene
with a gangster lean...

#12, you have my Father's favorite brand. I can't tell you how many models and colors he purchased over the span of more than 50 years of his driving.
serialnumber12
Senior Member
Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 623
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post

my dad was a cadillac man too.
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 504
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 3:14 pm:   Edit Post

my dad was a fan of Aston Martin DB5
He had two.

the_jester
Junior
Username: the_jester

Post Number: 26
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post

LOL!!!!

I'll rest my case...

(Message edited by the_jester on December 19, 2009)
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4239
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 5:54 pm:   Edit Post

Aston Martin, the old James Bond car! Did you have the passenger ejector seat? lol

Bill, tgo
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 505
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 1:43 am:   Edit Post

I never flight from the DB5 when my father put me at school with this car !!!
Its thread on old sport car now ? :-)
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 941
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 1:49 am:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee,
...if you could use your smart car as a generator for your gear that'd be something to see (and hear).
istari
New
Username: istari

Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2010
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 2:19 pm:   Edit Post

This is technically called: "Clown Car Magic" and extends to fitting as many band members and related individuals into what was once known as a 'phone booth' (now a lost art for lack of 'phone booths.')

The Alembic is a classic Alchemical (hence magical) tool.
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 638
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 6:43 pm:   Edit Post

Welcome to the board, marsh - you had #2? Far out! Got any pictures? At least give a description, please.

Peter
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4282
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 9:35 pm:   Edit Post

Welcome Marsh:

I believe #2 was originally made for Bob Weir. So how did you come by it (if you don't mind telling)? I seem to remember something about it now being in the Hard Rock Collection, or at the Rock 'n Roll HOF?

Bill, the guitar one

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