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pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 892
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post

Here is my little report:

http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/return_to_forever_2011.html

enjoy :-)
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1406
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post

WOW!! Great photos. You got up close and personal with the gear. I've never seen such good photos of his rack setup. Looks like you had a blast.
mario_farufyno
Senior Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 724
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post

What a show this must have been, incredible place!
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 894
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post

great show... under the rain !! be patient and come back tomorrow night, I'm sending some videos on dailymotion...
mike13
Intermediate Member
Username: mike13

Post Number: 101
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post

I am close friends with Nunzio,Franks brother in OZ
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1731
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post

It's 'School Days' alright . . . I feel like I get taken to school every time I see it or hear it !

So, what's with the Swallowtail inlays?

J o e y
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1249
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post

Wow.great pictures and thanks for the vids.
I spent a few minutes just looking at the F-1X settings. What's the story with the modded preamp
(the top unit) ?
Amazing shots of his Alembics,well done !

Elwood
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2829
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post

Power outs for two Series basses?
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 896
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 3:14 pm:   Edit Post

You can listen to the last video. The first F1-x is customized to have the DS5-R inside and after I dont understand the output from the first F1-X to the second.....I could took pictures of the back side of the rack.
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1409
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 3:28 pm:   Edit Post

Joey,

I believe the swallowtail inlays are the result of a bass that they were building custom for another club member (keith?)- however, something about the bass (neck taper?) wasn't correct, so they restarted another bass for keith and then took this bass and customized the neck to Stanley's personal neck preference.

There is a thread somewhere on the forum where I asked and the question was answered. Will try to find the link for that.
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2831
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 3:29 am:   Edit Post

Some guesswork here, but the top F-1X has the two power outs. Then there's a jumper cable from jack #2 on the top one, to #1 on the bottom one - so that's probably how the bottom F-1X gets its signal.

Assuming he's running the pickups into separate channels, there could be internal wiring to route one pickup signal to jack #2 (though I would hazard a guess that you can always run a jumper cable from the second jack, like on a two-channel Marshall head).

The switch just above jack #2 could select the instrument input, or the pickup to be routed to the other F-1X.
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2832
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 3:30 am:   Edit Post

SC Pre amps
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1251
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 8:41 am:   Edit Post

Ahhh... I didn't see that that cord was a jumper,

So instead of using the high/low outs on the back he is using 2 F-!X's , one for highs,one for lows...with a tone stack available for each.
I see the crossovers for this show are opened up to allow more frequencies that wouldn't be available when using one F-1X and it's crossover.

I see the mark on the lower units crossover is about where I place mine when using two cabs.
(my recent experience playing with leslies and x-over frequencies has taught me sometimes a little overlap can add warmth...but that's with a guitar and a situation when comb-filtering is the main goal).
Your assumption about jack 2 makes sense, otherwise it would start as a summed mono signal then split for amplification...and I can't imagine Stanley not using discrete pathways for each pickup.

Elwood
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2525
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 9:49 am:   Edit Post

Excellent photo's Pierre. It is too expensive for me to go to the shows this time round as none are in England. I hope to get a dvd of the concert when it is released.


Jazzyvee
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 897
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry but I really dont understand what you have understood elwood... If I remember my vision of the back, It seems that Stan used the mono output but I'm not sure.... well next time I take pictures of ALL, include the mosquito on the top of the rack.
What the video said about the SVT use ? the SVT2 is for the upright no ?
I posted a new video on the soundcheck.
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1253
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, that's correct regarding the SVT2,
...the SVT4 is for the electrics (and the the little fender on top for highs?)

Your pictures are close and clear and I feel lucky to be able to analyze his settings.
I bet a macro of the mosquito would be almost as fascinating ;)

Elwood
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 903
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post

Elwood, could you be kind to explain me what you said because I did understand... sorry but google translation didn't help me... (post 1251) thanks.
A question now: if he use one F1-X per pickup, how he do to get the both sounds pickup's on the pedalboard, because its not stereo ?
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1256
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post

Ok...I'll see if I can rephrase post 1251

My best guess:
The signal would go stereo from the bass to the top unit ,
the highs going through the top F-1X...the lows could be switched to the lower F-1X or kept in the top unit for simpler set-ups (smaller gigs?).

One of the advantages I see with using both F-1x's is that you have more tone controls for your high and low signals. The crossover frequencies can also be adjusted with more flexibility using both units.

Good question regarding the pedal board.
It may be in a loop from his rack with a mono send and stereo return.
Only his gear technician knows for sure.

I hope this translates better.
Elwood
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 904
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 8:35 am:   Edit Post

Thank for your help Elwood.
I'm asking about this because with my setting I cannot have real stereo (stereo is a great word, we could talk more on separate pickups signal) for the only reason my pedal board can affect only one pickup. I use the mono output of the DS-5R and go after to the F1-X, the back output send signal to pedal board. I have both pickups on pedal board and on both channels of my amp.
I don't know how use one F1-X per pickup separate (each pickup use 1 F1-X) and pedal board or Lexicon digital unit...
Any suggestion ?
Here is a icture of the back of SVT4 to try to understand Stanley's rig. Maybe somebody has the cellar number of his technician ? ;o)
If you look at the svt4 back, he cannot use crossover's outputs of the F1-X: it's mean he need 4 input in his amp and If I remember me good, he used the fullrange output of the F1-X. The question about pedalboard stay a mystery or he use only for the most used pickup ?

pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 928
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 2:30 pm:   Edit Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xm5nZnkNCE
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 1036
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 8:23 pm:   Edit Post

hello,
somebody know the exact private adresse of Stanley (not his agent), to send some pictures by post ?
Thanks a lot
collyman
Junior
Username: collyman

Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2011
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 7:47 pm:   Edit Post

Pierre, Bonjour!, did you see this video of Stanley's set-up??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FRe4_7wTec&feature=endscreen&NR=1
-Colly
jos
Junior
Username: jos

Post Number: 48
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 9:00 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Pierre-Yves! Great report!! More of those thank you! I did listen to RTF4 in Hamburg and it was a great band and a really good show! Stanley did have a great bass sound. The new Ampeg rig matches his Alembics very well. Stanley is one of those players who knows about sound and cares about it.
J-O-S
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 1037
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 2:21 am:   Edit Post

collymanm, uhuhu if you READ my page, you see this video at the bottom... ;o)
Thanks Jos. Waaaaaaaaawwwww Jan Olof ???? My God, what a surprise !!! I just read your pofile. I have 2 of your album, one with a big 5 strings Alembic :-) Nice player, master ;o) Stanley's sound is first his fingers, second Alembic, third tube amplification. For me SWR or Ampeg is approximatively the same. He has a good engineer too. He know exactly find (and remember with some ltlle adhesive strip) some fine sounds on his basses. It's enough difficult to find the same, even I have same gear (approximately)
Here is one of my sound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1_C1ueMzJE&
I use always both pickups, I play on a mix of both volume pot to find some nice sounds.

Anyway, if somebody has his private adress (of Stanley), please send me by email, thanks
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1806
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 6:46 am:   Edit Post

I ain't an anorak when it comes to sound settings, I just turn the knobs until it sounds fine to me out front BUT did you notice the lack of pick up selector on the lower horn of the tenor bass...sort of Signature meets Series electronics
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 1041
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post

terryc, it's not the tenor bass but the standard bass EADG. The tenor is the cocobolo one. I dont know why the pickup selector of the buckeye bass have no corner... maybe progressive selector or just esthetic ?
http://alembic.com/club/messages/631/86521.html?1268101476
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1736
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post

When I had the bass built I did not like that the pointer knob banged up my hand so we went with a round knurled knob. There is a ridge on the top that indicates direction.

Keith
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 1043
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post

Keith, thank you to remove the mystery ;o))

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