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cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 962
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 5:42 pm:   Edit Post

So, a week ago yesterday I had a synovial cyst taken out of my spinal canal, which involved removing parts of the L-3 vertebra. I am now 1 week into a 2-week prohibition on lifting more than 1 lb; then it's 2 weeks of <2 lb. Then 5. Could someone please weigh an acoustic guitar so I have some idea when I can pick it up? (I would do it, but I don't know how much it weighs.....)
Thanks!

Peter
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 307
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 6:33 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Peter, Have any pic's you are willing to share? I am in my Masters program for Physical Therapy and will soon be in training as a Rolfer. Just my curiosity. If you are not interested in sharing, that's cool too. thanks, Nick Ps. My gibson L-4 came in at 2.8lbs
tbrannon
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Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1366
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 6:53 pm:   Edit Post

Peter,

Hope you're feeling better soon!! I don't have an acoustic that I can weigh for you, but how about having a seat and having somebody hand you the guitar, so that you don't have to pick it up?
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 984
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 6:57 pm:   Edit Post

That sounds awful! I hope you feel better very soon.
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 1501
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 7:17 pm:   Edit Post

Well wishes for a speedy recovery.
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1859
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 8:16 pm:   Edit Post

Peter,
I hope that you recover soon.
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 963
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks, Nick - a few more weeks, it seems. About the best I could offer is to ask the Lovey & Charming Mrs. Cowboy to take a shot of the incision at this state. I'll see the Dr. Tues - want me to ask him for images from the operation? Toby, the L&C is more than willing to put it in my lap, but by the time she gets home, dinner et, etc, all I can think about is getting the corset off the incision & lying down! And no, no black lace; the corset actually more closely resembles a straight-jacket than any corset I've come across (just as well - that wouldn't be an image anybody needs!)
I hurt like hell, but in different places than a week ago, and am improving hourly - whilest pre-op I was declining hourly. All will be good, but my callouses are getting lonely.

Peter
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 308
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks, Peter. I would like to see any images. before/after, x-ray, standard. Spinal/neurologial issues are what I am most interested in due to my own spine issues. I wish you the best of recoveries, lots of patience, good pain meds, and best wishes to the L&C. Cowboys life is a hard one. I never should have got on my first bronc, but I'm glad I did. Rest up, buddy!

Nick
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 965
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 7:15 am:   Edit Post

I'll talk to him Tues & see what I can get. Will the Master's do you? I'm told Illinois is changing their licensure practice so PTs will need a PhD to practice; is Oregon going the same way, and if so, will you be done in time to be grandfathered with the MS?

Peter
mario_farufyno
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Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 686
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 8:28 am:   Edit Post

Better learn how to play Harmonica for that couple of weeks... Give your back a rest, it is not too long.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4878
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post

Peter:

Sorry to hear about your operation and best wishes for a speedy recovery. I'd send you weights on some different acoustics, but I am in NY with only my Martin and no scale until next Tuesday. Let me know if you still need weights then and I'll bring my postal scale home from work and get you some accurate measurements.

Bill, tgo
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 966
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post

Maybe you're right Mario; I have one on my bookcase that my son left when he moved out, maybe I'll see what happens.
Thanks, Bill, I'd appreciate it; it'll be 6/8 before I can do 5#, so yeah, it'll still be pertinent.

Peter
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 309
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post

Peter, yeah we are going that way too. I am wrapping up my masters at Christmas and it may be in Kinesiology. The department is in an uproar about it and I am NOT spending the money for a Doctorate.Besides, I already have my LMT and will be going to Rolfing school after this program. I want to fix people, not just have them ride a bike, or instruct on stretching. Got to go to Organic Chem 3 now, so take care buddy, and get well soon!
wideload
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Username: wideload

Post Number: 171
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post

I simply can't believe that Bill is without a scale! Hehe!
alemberic
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Username: alemberic

Post Number: 106
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 7:37 pm:   Edit Post

Best wishes for a full and rapid recovery, Peter. Try not to get too impatient, though--you need to heal up completely.

Eric
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 967
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 8:25 am:   Edit Post

Caught her in the AM today; got in ~40 minutes (my limit on sitting in one stretch right now). My fingers hurt - boy, does it feel good!
Thanks for the good wishes, all.

Peter
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 163
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Peter. I really feel for you and do hope you get all your back troubles behind you. We're really lucky they've made such advancements in technology, so we do get worked on and healed up, so we can get back to doing the important things in our lives. Today will be my first day getting back to picking up a bass to play it in over a month. Thankfully, alluses come and go. Wishing you a full recovery and lots of great play time in the future.
garth4664
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Username: garth4664

Post Number: 141
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 5:49 am:   Edit Post

On the bright side, in ten years time if the current trend continues you will be able to lift 500 lbs. Apology for the tasteless joke - hope you get better soon
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 970
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 6:21 pm:   Edit Post

Went to the Dr. today expecting him raise my limit from 1 to 2 lbs, but he didn't - he made it 5! I can pick up a guitar!!! Sorry, Nick, the Mrs. went weird over the image thing; I'll see what I can do later.

Peter
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 310
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post

No worries, Peter. I have lots of images and the cadaver lab. I am going there today! They always pull the most interesting ones out for us. Get better and play some guitar!


Nick
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10198
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post

Wow Peter; was this something sudden? Glad the surgery was a success and that you are on the mend.
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 972
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post

It came on late last year & was diagonosed ~3-4 weeks ago, Dave. It was not there on an MRI 2.5 years ago. Pain started ~July, thought it was a recurrence of something else. Another MRI last month showed it - it was ~pinkie-finger size - which didn't leave a lot of room for spinal cord. Should be out of the back brace in a few weeks, no restrictions within 6 months except, lifetime, no more heavy labor (done that, I'm fine with no more) & no high impact, a ala football or skydiving (did football - that was part of the problem - but that was 40 years ago, so no loss. Skydiving? Always wanted to, guess I won't. A lesson for you youngsters - whatever it is, do it NOW!)

Peter
hammer
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Username: hammer

Post Number: 47
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post

Hope you're feeling better and will be following your progress. Scheduled to have a similar procedure done in the next two weeks. Only difference is that my problem is between T1 and C7 with the pinching occuring at the nerve that exits the SC between these two vertebra. They're supposed to remove two cysts and do some "bone shaving" since there's some arthritic process back there too. Biggest difficulty right now(besides the pain) is that its restricting me to playing with a pick since the pinching affects every finger other than my thumb and forefinger. I've always been a non-impact sports guy so mine isn't from football. I hope it's not a result of 10 lb basses hanging off my shoulder all these years.
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 974
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post

You won't regret it, Brian; it was so bad that any movement or pressure from waist to knees was excruciating, and it was progressing so rapidly that I'm pretty sure if hadn't done the surgery 2 weeks ago, I wouldn't be walking now. When I woke up post-op, I was in a world of hurt - but none of it was in the same places, and it's already almost gone. My biggest problem now is that I hate the back brace, and still have a few more weeks of it. Let us know how yours goes, and hang in there until. For now, I just back from work (yeah, back in the classroom 2 weeks to the day from the surgery) & started PT yesterday, so I need to go do my exercises (any excuse to lose the brace....)

Peter
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 311
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post

Brian. First thing, I am not a doctor! What I am is a strutural integration therapist working on my Masters/DR in Physical therapy. If I may offer some advice? Before the surgery, find a Rolfer or certified structural integration therapist and have a few sessions. I am not familiar with you or your condition, but it is worth doing and may alliviate your problems. just my 2 cents. This therapy has kept me moving for years with no/little pain. I have moderate/advanced degeneration in all my thoracic and cervical vertebrae, scoliosis of spine. I rode bronks for years worked as an arborist for 12 years, toured as a bassist for years and ride bikes/skibikes,quads,and parachute jumping. By all rights I should be a cripple or dead, but here I am still enjoying life and moving on to a new career at 42. Good luck and all the best! Sorry about the hijack, Peter.


Nick
hammer
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Username: hammer

Post Number: 48
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the encouragement guys!
I haven't been to a Rolfer, but did go the PT route first and then to a postural restoration specialist. I didn't get much relief from either intervention. Apparently the cysts are rather large. In addition, years ago I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis. The openings between two adjacent vertebra, that allow the nerve fibers to exit the spinal canal are just not large enough. So any inflammation back there leads to pain. My condition hasn't been helped given that I'm a Nordic ski coach and avid cyclist who has raced for years and both activities I've been told pace a lot of stress on T1/C7. After two nights of absolutely no sleep, they are trying me on prednisone to try to knock down some of the inflammation/nerve irritation which has been a lot worse since I got a steroid injection last week. Hopefully this will get me through til surgery.

By the way, my doc loves the idea of postural restoration therapy and has encouraged me to go back following surgery to hopefully limit the probability of this occurring in the future. Nick, Iím not sure as to the differences between structural integration therapy and postural restoration, butÖfrom what Iíve learned after a quick internet search for the former, both would probably lessen the probability of recurrence whether the problem is lumbar as is Peterís or cervical-thoracic like mine.
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 313
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post

Wow, Brian. That's some stuff to deal with. Best of luck with the surgery. The work I do is myofascial, tendonous attachment,muscle retraining, holisticly based. Seeing the body that works efficiently, works best. That and pain management are my primary goals. I do hope to be a Rolfer....someday.


Nick
hammer
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Username: hammer

Post Number: 53
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 9:02 am:   Edit Post

So after an iniital cancellation and a wait of another three weeks, I finally had my T1-C7 synovial cyst removal surgery last Friday. The good news is that because they were able to do it using minimally invasive techniques, recovery should not be that long and there are no limitations on activities (other than to not do anything that will rip out the stitches). I was able to play again, sitting down of course, two days after going under. No real problem with pain BUT...I still have weakness and numbness in my right fingers so while I can use a pick fairly effectively the fingers are still not working the way they are intended.

When I contacted the neurosurgeon, all I got was information that the surgery went very well and there should be nothing impinging on the nerves that run down to those fingers anymore, in addition to a script for a corticosteriod which really hasn't helped.

Has anyone who has had this type of spinal procedure experienced a delay in symptom relief or a need to go to a PT/OT because of muscle atrophy. I hate to be limited to using a pick for the rest of my life, but at this point, the strength and dexterity I once had in those fingers is just not there.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10241
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post

Brian; I have no idea, but I do hope that it's nothing more than just a matter of time, healing, and exercise. Hoping for the best.
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1004
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post

My movement was severely limited by pain for 6-7 months pre-op. Going on 2 months post-op I have had almost no real pain (just the back feeling "different", I guess I'd say), but my legs are a bit weak, & tire easily. I'm still doing PT twice a week, & will be for a while; hope time & exercise will do both of us.

Peter
hammer
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Username: hammer

Post Number: 54
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2011 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post

Peter:

I experienced basically the same situation of 7-9 months of pain prior to anything really being done about it. In spite of the fact that I conduct health care related research in my professional life, I spent too much valuable time not listening to what my body was teling me, but rather, what the docs were saying (A word to the wise...no one knows your body like you do regardless of the number of professional degrees they have behind their name). I just hope that no permanent nerve damage was done and the PT (postural restoration) my neurosurgen has recommended does the trick. A week of being on prednisone has aleviated the pain, but the numbness continues. The silver lining to the cloud has been that, not being able to play much, I've finally had the time to purchase an Fx-1 and a power amp that's not 1970s vintage.
mario_farufyno
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Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 708
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 5:03 am:   Edit Post

If you watch a recovering Athlete you can see that even well trained bodies on young dudes can take some time to be back on shape again. PT can be hard due to all the pain and time our bodies need to take for recovery. That can frustrate and make us give up in the middle of that process. Please be patient and give yourself the time to heal.

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