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Advanced Member
Username: murray

Post Number: 230
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post

Any thoughts? Bergantino HD112 vs Barefaced Super Compact 12?
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 2138
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2015 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post

I have no real information on which to base this, but I'd go for the Barefaced.

Personally, I might look at a Fearless F112, too.

Hopefully you'll get someone who will chime in who has personal experience with the cabinets!
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1750
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post

I don't have any experience with either of those cabinets but I can tell you my AccuGroove Wedgie with a 12/6/dual tweeter is the best sounding cabinet I have ever played through! It blows away my Eden stack with a 410 & 115. The response is incredible, I can hear the slightest adjustment on my filters or CVQ controls. It is amazing how much low end these small cabinets produce, & it handles my low B perfectly. It will handle 400 watts & only weighs 29 pounds. If you prefer a traditional box they make the same speaker setup in a rectangular cabinet as well!wedgie/crn5
Senior Member
Username: flpete1uw

Post Number: 584
Registered: 11-2011
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 3:44 am:   Edit Post

I just purchased the Berg CN-212 and its a great sounding cab! The HD line is the ceramic magnet line and from what I understand people love them. I went with the CN neodymium magnet line because of the ~46 lbs weight. The CN-112 is ~26 lbs! The whole Bergantino line is greatly respected and now I concur.

TalkBass has 100's of informative (By TalkBass standards) comments on all the Berg lines.
Here's a good start.

I'm sure all the above would be great choices.

Best wishes its fun travels looking for the quest for sound!

(Message edited by flpete1uw on November 29, 2015)

(Message edited by flpete1uw on November 29, 2015)
Advanced Member
Username: murray

Post Number: 231
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 7:46 am:   Edit Post

Thanks everyone, especially Pete. I actually have been using one HD112 for some time now (I bought two but only needed to use them both on a couple of gigs)and couple it with a GenzBenz Streamliner 900.
I love the sound but am always interested in what is out there.
Pete's link to TalkBass was just what I needed to basically back up the purchase. Your CN212 is exactly the same weight as my HD112 44lbs which seems to be the weight we have to carry. There seems to be a trade off for single neo cabs in that they come in at around 28lbs (CN112) but haven't the low-end punch of ceramic.
I guess you and I are both well suited to the cab we have chosen and a big vote for Bergs.
Senior Member
Username: flpete1uw

Post Number: 585
Registered: 11-2011
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 8:11 am:   Edit Post

Cool! When you get to this level of cabs any of the above suggestions would work fine. I was looking for a 1 cab solution to handle what's been coming my way.
I'm thinking the CN-212's low end punch issues are a bit over stated except maybe when A/Bing the HD CN side by side. I'm finding if there is a issue my F2b / SF2 more than makes up for it.

Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 2503
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 9:24 am:   Edit Post

I need a stage rig like I need a hole in the head as I no longer play out, but I am very intrigued that Bag End is now offering their built-in power amps to virtually any and all of their cabinets, plus in the case of those type bins, also built-in INFRA (I wonder how this follow-on to ELF differs . . .). Then all you would need is your preamp and any outboard and you're done.

Professional concert sound has gone this way (imagine the miles of speaker cable they no longer need), and it will be interesting to see if MI follows.

Senior Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 1569
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post

Dag gum it Joey!
Nothing like links to Bag End equipment to give a guy a real bad case of GAS.
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2319
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post

They had one of these at the last Chicago gathering that was held at Bag End.


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