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bsee
Intermediate Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 108
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 6:43 am:   Edit Post

There is a current discussion about an Electrum guitar on eBay that has had the pickups replaced. What does this do to the value in your opinion?

The obvious answer is that everything in an Alembic is top quality, but would you rather have an Alembic instrument with replacement electronics, or a Fender with Alembic guts?

Maybe I am not asking the question with particular eloquence, but you get the idea...
811952
Intermediate Member
Username: 811952

Post Number: 183
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 8:41 am:   Edit Post

I would rather have a Fender with Alembic guts, if I were forced to choose, because while there are many very competent woodworkers and luthiers on the planet, the Alembic guts are simply without peer.

John
gbarchus
Member
Username: gbarchus

Post Number: 73
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 1:17 am:   Edit Post

I would choose the Alembic with aftermarket guts. You cannot forget about the craftsmanship. It does contribute to the sound. By the way, I have a Fender with Alembic guts, but I can't imagine changing the electronics in my Alembic.

Gale
811952
Intermediate Member
Username: 811952

Post Number: 187
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 6:33 am:   Edit Post

Gale,
Yes, I can't imagine changing the electronics in my Alembic either. And the craftsmanship is incredibly good. I think probably Fender was not the best brand to have posed the original question with, because compared to most other brands their stuff really is not all that nice. Kind of an Apples vs. Oranges deal really. I suppose in my head I was answering the Warwick or Lakland or Modulus with Alembic guts question and not the Fender with Alembic guts question.

John
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 621
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 6:53 am:   Edit Post

What does it do to the value? When I see an Alembic on ebay with non-Alembic electronics, I estimate the value by adding the cost, including shipping the instrument to Santa Rosa and back if required, of restoring the electronics. Usually, adding the restoration costs to the current bid will raise the total cost beyond what I'm willing to pay. In the current case, if it's only the pickups and not the controls, and if the pickup cavities have not been altered, then it's the cost of purchasing new pickups from Alembic. So for me, that's what it does to the value. But that's just me; others will have different perspectives. Gale's point about the craftsmanship is certainly true; but for me, at this point in time, the value of an instrument is reduced by the cost to make it whole. Hmmm .., I'm thinking that the word "value" does have different meanings; so I'm using "value" here as a measure of the amount of money I would be willing to expend on the purchase of an instrument. Of course there are other meanings of "value". My Essence has a high "value" to me because I've played it a long time and it's an important part of my life. But if I were to sell it, it's value to a perspective buyer would be reduced by its cosmetic blemishes. This question has made me think a lot. For instance, now I'm thinking about headstocks; the value of my Essence to Paul would be reduced because he prefers other headstock designs over the Cone design. So, again, what does it do to the value? It does different things to different people <g>.
gbarchus
Member
Username: gbarchus

Post Number: 74
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 3:14 pm:   Edit Post

John,

I would like to hear a Warwick with Alembic guts. I see alot of similarities between the two basses, especially the neck-through models with the bridge/tailpiece and adjustable nut.

Gale
malthumb
Advanced Member
Username: malthumb

Post Number: 231
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post

There's a guy on a newsgroup that I frequent that has Alembic guts in a Warwick Dolphin (a porpoise with a purpose?). Haven't seen or heard much from him lately, but if he surfaces I'll ask him to chime in here.

Peace,

James

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