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bonesrad
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Username: bonesrad

Post Number: 72
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post

Just curious out there. Have any of you had your Alembic Plek'd? If so, were the results positive?

Bones
jimmyj
Advanced Member
Username: jimmyj

Post Number: 283
Registered: 8-2008
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 3:35 pm:   Edit Post

I think my road bass was done once - with good results. A guitar tech I was traveling with took it in so sadly I didn't get to observe the operation. It's a very clever machine and I know there aren't many around. I'm also sure the results still depend on the skill of the "operator".

And there are many talented repair guys around who do great fret work by hand so it's difficult to say if one way would be quicker, cheeper. or produce better results than the other. How much do they charge to use the big machine?

Jimmy J
bonesrad
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Username: bonesrad

Post Number: 73
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for the input Jimmy. I'm here in Seattle so if I went this route, I'd go with Mike Lull. I think his going rate is something like $300 - $400 for a non-Lull bass. Definitely not cheap but if makes a marked difference in the playability of the bass, it might be worth it.

Bones
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1632
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 4:35 pm:   Edit Post

???Plek'd..please explain..I have no idea what this is??
jimmyj
Advanced Member
Username: jimmyj

Post Number: 284
Registered: 8-2008
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 5:33 pm:   Edit Post

Here's the thing:
http://www.plek.com/en_US/technik/

Bones, are you having some specific trouble with wear or uneven fret height or something?

Jimmy J
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1633
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 4:27 am:   Edit Post

jimmyj..thanks..okay and automated software controlled refret and set up machine...very clever!!!
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1634
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 4:28 am:   Edit Post

Thanks jimmyj..okay an automated CNC software controlled refret and set up machine..very clever indeed!!
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4899
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 7:26 am:   Edit Post

Not an Alembic, but I had a Daion Power Mark XX Pleked by Gary Brawer in San Francisco. The guitar plays wonderfully. I don't remember the cost, but it was a lot less than the $300-400 quote.

Bill, tgo
white_cloud
Junior
Username: white_cloud

Post Number: 33
Registered: 6-2010
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 8:51 am:   Edit Post

I think Lakland use the Plek'd technique right across their whole range of basses - including the Skyline series.

Im very impressed by the results.
bonesrad
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Username: bonesrad

Post Number: 74
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 8:51 am:   Edit Post

I guess I was a little high on the estimated cost from Lull's shop. His website states the average cost is about $235 for a non-Lull instrument.

Jimmy, I'm not noticing any marked problems with the bass, I was mainly thinking about getting it to peak playability and was wondering if a Plek job might help.

Thanks for all the input so far.

Bones
rjmsteel
Intermediate Member
Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 163
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 8:56 am:   Edit Post

They have one at Music Gallery in Highland Park, IL, (North Shore suburb of Chicago).
I had my `81 Distillate Plek`d there by Chip and they did a good job.
george_wright
Intermediate Member
Username: george_wright

Post Number: 155
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 8:59 am:   Edit Post

I had a stratocaster plekked by Phil Jacoby here in Baltimore. Was $300, including re-fret. Went for the re-fret, stayed for the neck-leveling and set-up. Worth it, IMHO.
briant
Senior Member
Username: briant

Post Number: 582
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post

Hey Bones.

I also live in Seattle and I had Mike PLEK my Rogue 5 string. There was absolutely nothing wrong with it prior to bringing it in. After I got it back it was another level of amazing to play. Well worth the cost.

I've been meaning to get my new Essence in to have it done as well. Life and gigs have been busy and I still haven't found the time.
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 1382
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post

I brought an Excel 5 to peekamoose in nyc. They treated me like I was weird because I had leds in the neck. After a week or so they told me it would need a complete refret, didn't do anything in the way of work and charged me 85 bucks for benchtime. I was pissed and told them I would send it back to Alembic and they would tell me if it needed a refret. They didn't believe me and I told them I have a solid and very positive relationship with Alembic and they will do whatever it takes to make it right if there is a problem with the bass. In the car I called Mica and she said by all means send it in. While I was on the phone, peekamoose called me and said they would use the 85 as credit in the store on work or merch or a new instrument. I told them no thanks and I was talking with Alembic right now. They called again repeating the offer, my response was curt to say the least.
So far every time I brought an Alembic to someone for repair I've been given the run around. How one buzz on one string constitutes a total refret on a newish bass is beyond me.

After a long time I just sent the bass to Mica and they'll have it next week to check it out. Shipping is deductible on income tax right?
bluplirst
Intermediate Member
Username: bluplirst

Post Number: 121
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 2:15 pm:   Edit Post

Lull's Plek work is awesome. On kit's stralembic, the action is perfect and 2 step plus bends don't fret out at all (hard to accomplish on a vintage radius).
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1723
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post

I'd say to have it Plek'd only in a shop where the knowledge base is deep enough in the staff to know when you really need it. There's lots of good guitar techs here in BNA who can do a whole lotta first-rate fret work for way less than $200+. Plek is an amazing tool, but like most modern tools, it, too, won't work correctly with a 'loose nut behind the wheel'.

Otherwise, you could wind up like Danno. Reminds me of the garage where you took the car for a four-wheel alignment, and while it's up on the lift they run into the waiting room and tell you you need a new muffler, the ball joints are shot, you know the drill.

If they're jumpy about working on an Alembic, KEEP WALKING, you just found out all you need to know. I'll have to try that, "I'll call Mica!" on them before I go, though !

J o e y
bluplirst
Intermediate Member
Username: bluplirst

Post Number: 124
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 1:18 pm:   Edit Post

Danno, I've had a similar unpleasant experience with Peekamoose. I wouldn't recommend their fretwork to anyone.
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 1383
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post

Glad to know I'm not paranoid about being annoyed!
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1724
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2011 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post

I mean, really . . . . why is working on an Alembic any different than anything else? Where do guys go to have these unbelievably expensive wintage guitars worked on? Either someone is qualified and knows what they're doing or they just don't. The guy here in Nashville who works on mine never even blinked when I opened the case. Does excellent work, I have NO reservations leaving them there(www.classicax.com).



My yardstick has always been to find the guy who works on all the really good working players' axes: They have to have them to make a living, so you're just not apt to see them letting some kid behind the counter and the local hang music store (like that jackass meth-head in the YouTube Alembic guitar reviews) screw around with his living: Just not gonna happen. You can't stop a record date or a stadium gig or even Saturday night at the VFW from a bum repair job, ever. Don't be that guy !

J o e y
pauldo
Senior Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 638
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 1:56 pm:   Edit Post

I had my Distillate frets dressed about 8 years ago at Uncle Bob's they did good work. Then again in Milwaukee we also have this guy who seems to be pretty capable.

However I did exchange e-mails with Rich (rjmsteel) about his Plek-venture and think it would be a good idea to sock away a little $$$ to have my Distillate Plekitized at the same place he did.

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