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redcloud
Member Username: redcloud
Post Number: 65 Registered: 5-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 5:57 am: | |
Any Alembics with this product or modification? |
chuck
Advanced Member Username: chuck
Post Number: 268 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 8:32 am: | |
Are you talking about a hipshot. Chuck. |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 1310 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 10:32 am: | |
I have one on my '83 Spoiler and one on my '90 Elan: |
redcloud
Member Username: redcloud
Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 1:46 pm: | |
Yes, just didn't seem to seem it mentioned much here. Sorry, I should have done a search. |
mica
Moderator Username: mica
Post Number: 7493 Registered: 6-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 3:16 pm: | |
It's worth mentioning that the Hipshots can be added after the fact in most cases. |
jimmyj
Advanced Member Username: jimmyj
Post Number: 309 Registered: 8-2008
| Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 4:44 pm: | |
Also worth mentioning ... I know a lot of players use these with good results but doesn't dropping the tension of one string make the other strings go a bit sharp? If I "D-tune" for a song I usually have to touch up the other strings to balance things out. Just curious. Jimmy J |
jet_powers
Senior Member Username: jet_powers
Post Number: 532 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 5:45 pm: | |
I suspect your ears are more discriminating than most Jimmy. My guess is the average person (and perhaps a few above average) in the audience most likely won't notice. JP |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 2036 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 7:32 am: | |
That issue is exactly why I hadn't installed a D-tuner on my bass a long time ago. Probably not a huge issue on many instruments, but my Series has a skinny neck and responds to minor changes in tension. John |
groovelines
Senior Member Username: groovelines
Post Number: 695 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 7:38 am: | |
If Drop D is as low as you need to go, try DGCF as an optional tuning scheme. Maintains string tension as Jimmy mentioned, keeps the overall tuning relationship from string to string "standard" and not too difficult to retrain muscle memory. Plus, reducing your reach by a few inches can be refreshing. |
sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus
Post Number: 2095 Registered: 5-2009
| Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 7:59 am: | |
DGCF seems interesting ; I will try it. Thanks____ |
tmoney61092
Senior Member Username: tmoney61092
Post Number: 739 Registered: 9-2008
| Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 8:15 am: | |
DGCF is definitely one of my favorite tunings but would have to say Eb takes the cake on my all time. I've seriously considered putting a D-tuner on a couple of my basses for quite sometime but didn't want to have to mod the headstock.... ~Taylor |
hankster
Advanced Member Username: hankster
Post Number: 265 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 1:49 pm: | |
that tuning issue is why the best d-tuners are extensions - so the string is longer, and the machine "frets" the extended string. Never seen one of those on an alembic. don't know who if anyone makes them for transverse basses, they take a lot of modification to the bass. Lots of symphony players use them of course. the hipshots are cool though and in lots of settings people get away with them. |
briant
Senior Member Username: briant
Post Number: 601 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 12:24 pm: | |
Unless you need to switch mid-song, or back and forth a lot mid-song like that Manring character, I would propose that they really aren't worth the trouble. Switching to drop D for a song shouldn't take more than a few seconds. Especially if you sit down and switch back and forth a few times to get a feel for how much to turn the tuning peg. I do this several times a night and I never miss having a d-tuner (I've had them previously). |
redcloud
Member Username: redcloud
Post Number: 77 Registered: 5-2011
| Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 12:57 pm: | |
I am kind of thinking it isn't worth the trouble, either. I have a Dingwall Z3-5 with the Hipshot extender Key. I am finding as mentioned above that the other strings go a little sharp and when deactivated, the B is a little flat. |
hankster
Advanced Member Username: hankster
Post Number: 267 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 2:38 pm: | |
Regarding jimmy's earlier question about tuning, I was staggering around the alembic forum - looking for stuff about Zon basses, which is slightly heretical, I know - when I came across a thread about "de tuned" basses, mostly about hipshots, with a link to a Michael Manring vid. That one, and the one in the comment by briant above, bear out Jimmy's point I think. In addition to the flipping of the hipshot levers, there is a lot of tuning on-the-fly going on there. R. |
redcloud
Member Username: redcloud
Post Number: 83 Registered: 5-2011
| Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 3:48 pm: | |
I am going to give D-F tuning a try though on my Essence 4. |