Post Number: 65
|Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 5:57 am: |
Any Alembics with this product or modification?
Post Number: 268
|Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 8:32 am: |
Are you talking about a hipshot.
Post Number: 1310
|Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 10:32 am: |
I have one on my '83 Spoiler and one on my '90 Elan:
Post Number: 67
|Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 1:46 pm: |
Yes, just didn't seem to seem it mentioned much here. Sorry, I should have done a search.
Post Number: 7493
|Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 3:16 pm: |
It's worth mentioning that the Hipshots can be added after the fact in most cases.
Post Number: 309
|Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 4:44 pm: |
Also worth mentioning ... I know a lot of players use these with good results but doesn't dropping the tension of one string make the other strings go a bit sharp? If I "D-tune" for a song I usually have to touch up the other strings to balance things out.
Post Number: 532
|Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 5:45 pm: |
I suspect your ears are more discriminating than most Jimmy. My guess is the average person (and perhaps a few above average) in the audience most likely won't notice.
Post Number: 2036
|Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 7:32 am: |
That issue is exactly why I hadn't installed a D-tuner on my bass a long time ago. Probably not a huge issue on many instruments, but my Series has a skinny neck and responds to minor changes in tension.
Post Number: 695
|Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 7:38 am: |
If Drop D is as low as you need to go, try DGCF as an optional tuning scheme. Maintains string tension as Jimmy mentioned, keeps the overall tuning relationship from string to string "standard" and not too difficult to retrain muscle memory. Plus, reducing your reach by a few inches can be refreshing.
Post Number: 2095
|Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 7:59 am: |
DGCF seems interesting ; I will try it.
Post Number: 739
|Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 8:15 am: |
DGCF is definitely one of my favorite tunings but would have to say Eb takes the cake on my all time. I've seriously considered putting a D-tuner on a couple of my basses for quite sometime but didn't want to have to mod the headstock....
Post Number: 265
|Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 1:49 pm: |
that tuning issue is why the best d-tuners are extensions - so the string is longer, and the machine "frets" the extended string. Never seen one of those on an alembic. don't know who if anyone makes them for transverse basses, they take a lot of modification to the bass. Lots of symphony players use them of course. the hipshots are cool though and in lots of settings people get away with them.
Post Number: 601
|Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 12:24 pm: |
Unless you need to switch mid-song, or back and forth a lot mid-song like that Manring character, I would propose that they really aren't worth the trouble. Switching to drop D for a song shouldn't take more than a few seconds. Especially if you sit down and switch back and forth a few times to get a feel for how much to turn the tuning peg. I do this several times a night and I never miss having a d-tuner (I've had them previously).
Post Number: 77
|Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 12:57 pm: |
I am kind of thinking it isn't worth the trouble, either. I have a Dingwall Z3-5 with the Hipshot extender Key. I am finding as mentioned above that the other strings go a little sharp and when deactivated, the B is a little flat.
Post Number: 267
|Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 2:38 pm: |
Regarding jimmy's earlier question about tuning, I was staggering around the alembic forum - looking for stuff about Zon basses, which is slightly heretical, I know - when I came across a thread about "de tuned" basses, mostly about hipshots, with a link to a Michael Manring vid. That one, and the one in the comment by briant above, bear out Jimmy's point I think. In addition to the flipping of the hipshot levers, there is a lot of tuning on-the-fly going on there.
Post Number: 83
|Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 3:48 pm: |
I am going to give D-F tuning a try though on my Essence 4.