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wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 159
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2012 - 9:47 pm:   Edit Post

Was just watching ELP,and wondered,just how many scorpions ar there? They seem to be the rarest of body styles.I can only think of one member who has a distillate w/a scorpion(my fav version)body.Anyone ,esp those of you who've been around awhile,know of anymore? (besides the one at GC in Hollywood).Just curious.
pauldo
Senior Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 790
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 9:58 am:   Edit Post

+1 on the Distillate you mentioned Karl.
I think Dave owns it - it is a beauty, certainly drool worthy.

Paul TDO
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 160
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post

Yes Paul,that is the one! My current wish list is to build a EMW Spoiler,but of all the old school small bodies,that's my fav.It would be very tempting to switch to that, or something like it.Maybe just a smidge bigger for balance.....
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2911
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post

A Spoiler is not exactly a small body ...
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 161
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post

Whoops! Good catch Adriaan.Let me clarify,If I were to go with something like Daves Distillate,I would want to make it a little bigger,like a Spoiler.It appears to me that Daves Scorpion is closer in size to a Stanely than a Spoiler. Of course I may be mistaken.=)
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 162
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post

By the way Adriaan,I thought I'd read somewhere that these scorpion Distillates were more common in Europe.Have you noticed this to be true?
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2912
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 1:57 pm:   Edit Post

They might be less uncommon here, but that doesn't make them any more common than hen's teeth ... In any case, I've never seen one in the flesh. I'd even guess you stand a better chance finding one in Japan than in Europe.

By the way, there are also 3/4 sized Spoilers out there - serial number with an R referring to the Japanese distributor at the time.
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 163
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 2:40 pm:   Edit Post

Looking on the web I did find an 8st zebrawood, a 10st cocobolo, and a Series 1 w/a whammy,but they are all like Greg Lakes Scorpion.I think it would be nice if the Mothership posted some pics of some of the variations,as well as some of the more unusual builds they've done that have never made it to the Forum.Can't ever get enough....
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5097
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 4:47 pm:   Edit Post

Rarest of body styles? I suspect the pretzels could give the scorpions a run for their money for that title.

Bill,tgo
wishbass
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Username: wishbass

Post Number: 164
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post

Pretzels? Any pics? I am still very much a newbie (1 year in July since my Elan came into my life),so I'm unfamiliar w/them.
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1175
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 6:25 pm:   Edit Post

And I seem to remember Mica or Susuan saying somewhere here that they made 6 peanuts - pretzels & peanuts; it's bar-food time! (Did they ever make a pickled egg?)

Peter
811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 2180
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 8:00 am:   Edit Post

Compared to a Standard Point, the Spoiler is significantly smaller (and lighter).

I've never seen a Scorpion up-close, except walking past the stage at an ELP show back in the day, so I have no real grasp of how large they are. I would assume very, and heavy. Definitely beautiful though.

John
funkyjazzjunky
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Username: funkyjazzjunky

Post Number: 752
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post

Please show us pictures of the Scorpion
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 167
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post

My computer is my phone,so I haven't the ability to post pics from it(at least I haven't figired out how) to the forum. Perhaps Adriaan could.There are at least 2 variations I know of.
811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 2182
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post

http://www.ipass.net/jthrush/lake.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stickk/3435706004/
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1044
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

Karl asked me to post a pic for him, a sweet 10-string scorpion!!!

10 string scorpion
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 168
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Harry! I wonder who owns this.I've not seen it in the showcase.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5099
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post

Karl:

Here's a link to my pretzel guitar, Old #10. And here's Johnny Winter's Guitar. These are the only two pretzels I am aware of, though I suspect there are more.

Bill, tgo
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 169
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 4:29 pm:   Edit Post

Wow.Those are high on the cool factor.I love wood carving,and it's always interesting to see it incorporated into musical instruments.
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1177
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 6:33 pm:   Edit Post

Don't forget pretzel 72-14.

Peter
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5100
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post

Dohhh!!! Of course I should have remembered #10's fraternal twin. (Dope slap)

Bill, tgo
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 456
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post

Dave DeMarco has a really nice one too -



Featured in this thread -

http://alembic.com/club/messages/65124/100679.html?1305582164
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 170
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 5:15 pm:   Edit Post

As mentioned above,I'm a big fan of Daves' Distillate.Sure wish he'd post more pics.=) (hint hint Dave!)
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 457
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post

I wasn't sure which Dave you were talking about, I thought it might be Dave Houck since he has many more posts than Dave De Marco.
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 171
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 6:29 pm:   Edit Post

That's fine.I'm glad you posted the pic.
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 459
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 7:06 pm:   Edit Post

This pic was the first Scorpion I had ever seen. If I ever get a custom made, this is the body I want!
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 2379
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post

scorpion gc


This is the one that I played at Guitar Center in Hollywood in 5/09

(the number seems to a GC stock number)
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 460
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 7:30 pm:   Edit Post

That's an interesting wood pattern in the neckthrough part of the body!
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 2380
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 7:45 pm:   Edit Post

Rusty, yes , It is an interesting Bass. It is medium scale as I remember. When you look at it very closely it has some finish crackling but otherwise seems to be in decent shape. Who knows, ____it might still be hanging there @ the Holly Guitar Center.
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 461
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 7:56 pm:   Edit Post

We are coming to Hollywood to visit our son Easter weekend & I was hoping to go by GC while we're there so I'll see if it's still there. I'll post some pictures if it is. Thanks for the info Wolf!
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1050
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post

My doubleneck has the pistol-grip - isn't that half of a scorpion?

doubleneck
afrobeat_fool
Senior Member
Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 431
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post

That's the pic I'm using as a background for my laptop!
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 3119
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 5:22 am:   Edit Post

Looks like you caught your knee on the jaggedy horn of your bass harry. I can come round with some sandpaper if you want it smoothed off :-)

Graeme
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 463
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 5:24 am:   Edit Post

Good one Graeme!
pauldo
Senior Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 794
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 7:08 am:   Edit Post

I believe that is Nick playing Harry's bass.

Dave DeMarco! He's the one I can never remember with the bass that I can never forget.
Thanks for digging that up Rusty!
That is one sweeeeeet Distillate!
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5103
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post

I just realized that pic was taken in my home studio!

So Rusty, will your California trip include a venture north? If you're going to be this close, you really should check out the mothership if you can swing it.

Bill, tgo
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 464
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post

Paul, Dave plays with one of my favorite bands, Crack The Sky, as well as several other bands. You can check him out at http://www.davedemarco.com/

Bill, unfortunately we are only going to be in Hollywood for the weekend, so we won't have time to head to Santa Rosa. I toured the Mothership last June when we moved my son out there. It was an experience of a lifetime! I do plan to go back someday when I have more time!

Rusty
afrobeat_fool
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Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 432
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah, that's me with the torn pants leg. I was going for that 80's look. :-) Really, my dog and I were scrapping earlier in the day and he took me out.
jzstephan
Junior
Username: jzstephan

Post Number: 45
Registered: 1-2012
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post

Nice piece of buckeye...
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 173
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 6:15 pm:   Edit Post

Boy! Wouldn't that look great on a Scorpion?I've not really been drawn to buckeye,but I can see the possibilities w/the right shape....
jzstephan
Junior
Username: jzstephan

Post Number: 46
Registered: 1-2012
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post

Oh, sorry, that was your dog. Never mind.
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1053
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 - 7:08 pm:   Edit Post

Another couple of pics from Karl:

greglake scorpion

greglake scorpion2

The second one looks like a graphite neck maybe?
dfung60
Senior Member
Username: dfung60

Post Number: 545
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post

Indeed, Greg Lake's Pirate 8-string is graphite. If you have Bass Culture, the Entwistle collection book, you'll see that John owned this bass as well. In that book there is also another graphite Scorpion bass with a Bigsby vibrato! And the two basses in the previous post are different basses as well!

I always called these "gunslingers". I believe they referred to this form at Alembic as the "pistol grip".

Mica hasn't mentioned it yet, but way back in the 80's she visited me at my office with Greg Lake's guitar, which was the sibling of the bass in the first picture. If I remember correctly, it was also pistol grips and had amazing mythical beast inlays (I particularly remember a manticore on there, which was the symbol of ELP's record label). I'm a huge Greg Lake fan, so I should have bought this, but it had a signficant pricetag (just imagine what those inlays would cost today) and I wimped out.

David Fung
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 174
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post

If you google images Alembic Scorpion,that bass w/the Bigsby shows up as well as the other 2.I'd post a pic but I'm unable from my phone. Very cool stuff about Greg Lake.Thanks for sharing David.(would love to see that guitar!)
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1054
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post

I wonder when the earliest pistol grip was? Mine (the doubleneck) is from '75...
room037
Senior Member
Username: room037

Post Number: 437
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, March 23, 2012 - 3:53 pm:   Edit Post

Santana's 73'-028 has pistol grip.
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1058
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 7:01 pm:   Edit Post

"Santana's 73'-028 has pistol grip."

Thanks Eiji san! That would be this thread in which I was an active participant! I forgot that my question had already been answered. Maybe this guitar (Santana's) could be viewed as the earliest embryonic form of the Scorpion?
daved
Junior
Username: daved

Post Number: 34
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 5:31 pm:   Edit Post

Hi folks,

I just saw this thread and will post some pix of my beloved Distillate/Scorpion when I get home. Coincidentally, I'm in the Napa Valley at this moment on a spur of the moment trip and I thought I'd take a chance and call Alembic to see if I could pop by for a quick visit. Wouldn't you know it - they close at 4pm and I called at exactly 4:01 so I missed them.

It's just as well - I probably would have made an equally spur of the moment purchase.
wishbass
Intermediate Member
Username: wishbass

Post Number: 191
Registered: 5-2011
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 5:41 pm:   Edit Post

Hi David,can't wait! Your Scorpion is legendary, and there are far too few pictures of it! Would love to see it from all angles.......
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7666
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 7:20 pm:   Edit Post

Awww shucks! I'm still here! but Napa is a good hour away. I will probably be here in the morning tomorrow, so email me if you will be in THIS valley then. I promise to only tempt you a little :-)

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