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mica
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Post Number: 7806
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 3:23 pm:   Edit Post

This is what UPS delivered to Stanley Clarke about a week ago:

Stan's 5er

Series I 5-string EADGC (.090-.075-.060-.035-.025)
Indian Rosewood top and back
Wide Maple accent laminate
Vermilion body
Maple, Vermilion, and Ebony short scale (30.75") neck
Ebony fingerboard 1.68 x 2.68
Mother of pearl lotus flower inlays
Red side LEDs
Small 2+3 Crown peghead with inlaid logo
Hipshot Ultralight tuners
Continuous wood backplates

The inlays are lotus flowers:
inlays

And the back:
back
No straplocks for Stan... we just drill pilot holes and he uses a large washer and wood screw to attach the strap.
davehouck
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Post Number: 10814
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 3:29 pm:   Edit Post

Wonderful bass! And great pics!
pierreyves
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Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 1081
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post

He was jalous of some parts of mine ? LOL !!! I was first to try EADGC tune ;-)) Anyway, very nice instrument, and standard pickup position, for easier slapping ?
hieronymous
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Post Number: 1141
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 3:38 pm:   Edit Post

Awesome! This is pretty monumental isn't it? SC using a 5-string? It fits him perfectly, since he seems to switch between the regular & tenor basses - now he doesn't have to!
mica
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Post Number: 7807
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 3:41 pm:   Edit Post

The pickup placement is split between the traditional very close placement that he's used to and the current standard... it's custom.

This isn't the first short scale we've made with this tuning, but it's the first time for Stanley. He didn't like the wide necks on the 5-string basses he tried, so he asked me to figure out something that would work for him. I wanted the nut to be quite narrow and then to spread out at the bridge so the spacing was just a little tighter than the 4-strings we make for him.
pierreyves
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Post Number: 1082
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 4:27 pm:   Edit Post

I see that his (bass) body is thinner than my blackwood ? because 3 backplates ?
mica
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Post Number: 7808
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 - 4:49 pm:   Edit Post

I know, right Harry?! He has been thinking about music that needed more range, and was ready to explore this possibility. Everything in its own time and ne dis jamais jamais.

It is thinner, Pierre-Yves. So that's why it has 3 backplates.
811952
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Post Number: 2251
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2012 - 5:04 am:   Edit Post

Pretty. Nice to see someone at the top of his game trying something new!

John
pauldo
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Post Number: 845
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, July 13, 2012 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post

So Stanley uses Series I electronics and not Signature electronics?
I thought the SC bass in Chicago in 2009 was Signature?
pierreyves
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Post Number: 1085
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, July 13, 2012 - 8:16 am:   Edit Post

Stanley had always used series I electronics, until he left mother's milk ;-))
rjmsteel
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Friday, July 13, 2012 - 8:52 am:   Edit Post

Ebony neck laminate too! Just stunning. I hope we will hear him playing this instrument soon.
hieronymous
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Post Number: 1142
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, July 13, 2012 - 9:16 am:   Edit Post

This was the first evidence: http://alembic.com/club/messages/449/135672.html?1342140970
hb3
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Post Number: 726
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 5:58 pm:   Edit Post

That's quite interesting!

Something I've definitely been thinking a lot of lately.

How's the balance?
wfmandmusic
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Post Number: 24
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 4:53 pm:   Edit Post

Wow Mica what beautiful work!
Ken
jon_jackson
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post

This makes me think of converting Scarlet to that configuration. Where does one get a "C" string of the right diameter or such a string set? Although, I would probably look for one closer to .030.
Jon
pierreyves
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Post Number: 1093
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 4:52 pm:   Edit Post

I use d'addario 0.28 & 0.30 XLB
edwin
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Post Number: 1238
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Posted on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 4:03 pm:   Edit Post

With a high C string, it doesn't really matter what the scale length of the string is. They usually have the same winding the whole length of the string anyway. I use Sunbeam .030 for my high Cs.
funkyjazzjunky
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Post Number: 798
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 6:45 am:   Edit Post

Edwin, are those DR Sunbeams?

VMG
edwin
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Post Number: 1239
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post

That would be them!
jon_jackson
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Post Number: 146
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 5:02 am:   Edit Post

I found a set of DR HiBeams with the .030 so ordered them to try out the concept. I haven't used them before but know others here have. Thanks for the advice.
alembickoa
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Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post

Yup...
jazzyvee
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Post Number: 3132
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post

Seems like NoTreble.com have not done their research.
I think they are mistaking the 5pin socket for a Midi out.


http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2012/08/01/alembic-unveils-stanley-clarke-signature-deluxe-5-string-bass/

Jazzyvee
edwin
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Post Number: 1272
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post

They also seem to imply that it can be had for $10k. Somehow that doesn't seem likely.
fc_spoiler
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Post Number: 1390
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 2:03 pm:   Edit Post

"The Alembic Stanley Clarke Signature Deluxe 5-string bass is expected near the end of the year with a price of $9,999. "

Signature deluxe 5 string lists for $11200 and has been there for quite a while I think...

Mr. Clarke's version would be about $20K I guess...
funkyjazzjunky
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Post Number: 819
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 8:19 am:   Edit Post

Many people have no clue what the knobs & switches are for
lbpesq
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Post Number: 5221
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post

And lest we not forget - this "Signature" bass is actually a Series I - a bit more than $10K retail.

Bill, tgo
xlrogue6
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Post Number: 227
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post

Inaccurate information on the Internetses? Well I never...
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1971
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 2:36 am:   Edit Post

For those who know eh??
Assumption is the mutha of all f***ups
Just because it looks like a DIN output doesn't mean MIDI.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1148
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 5:50 am:   Edit Post

Hey, at least they were trying to give Alembic some love - unlike many of the people in the comments... :-(

Anyone want to shoot notreble.com an email to give them a heads-up? Be gentle!
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1972
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 6:02 am:   Edit Post

Okay I did e mail them with this text

MIDI output on Stanley Clarke Alembic bass - review on August 1st 2012
Hi Guys,
Just a note on correction, I have gathered that you assumed the 5 pin socket is a MIDI out port well the truth is that it is for the DS- 5 external power supply.
You see S I & SII basses either run on batteries but ideally use this power supply, two pins supply 18V +/-, two pins are the outputs for the pickups(which you can have in stereo) and the last pin is the ground.
An easy mistake though as it does look like a 5 pin DIN output.
Great site as well..keep up the good work!


Sounds okay?? I thought it did.
fc_spoiler
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Post Number: 1391
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 6:45 am:   Edit Post

I couldn't resist posting a comment :-)
funkyjazzjunky
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Username: funkyjazzjunky

Post Number: 821
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post

Kudos to Edwin Hurwitz for trying to educate the masses on the site

VMG
edwin
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Post Number: 1274
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post

Yeah, well, I guess I've just been in a mood of late.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7852
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post

I also wrote to Kevin at No Treble, and he wrote back with a very nice response.

Thank you guys very much for helping us get good information out in the world. Your support really means to world to me.
funkyjazzjunky
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Username: funkyjazzjunky

Post Number: 823
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 1:54 pm:   Edit Post

The article has deleted the MIDI reference

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