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davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 973 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 7:59 am: | |
Those of you who have an Alembic with two volume controls and no master volume, how do you accomplish a smooth fade out at the end of a song? |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 433 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:32 am: | |
I have never done that with a volume control, but rather by controlling dynamics with my fingers. I suppose that if I felt the need to do it mechanically, I would use a volume pedal anyway. My fingers are too busy to be screwing around with controls continuously at any point, let alone at a key point in a tune like a fade out. -Bob |
davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 974 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:44 am: | |
Bob; "fade out" was misleading. I meant the situation where you hit a note and hold it and roll the volume back to zero, hopefully at the same rate as the guitar player. |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 434 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:53 am: | |
Ahh - okay. I can't remember doing that... If I did, it would be either with a volume pedal, if I had one hooked up, or by using the side of my hand to move both volume controls simultaneously. They aren't that far apart. |
johnnybassboy
New Username: johnnybassboy
Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 9:40 am: | |
I much prefer a master volume/pickup fader setup. It is so much quicker to use, and more repeatable. Dual volume controls are strickly for traditionalists. |
poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel
Post Number: 359 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:13 am: | |
Hey Dave. I would walk over to my preamp and turn it down there, or as Bob mentioned, use a volume pedal. Next to last would be to put your index finger on the 'backside' of one volume knob and your little finger on the 'backside' of the other and try to smoothly slide your fingers downward. The final thought I would have on this would be to buy a Fender and the note should fade much quicker, naturally. Out of curiosity, do Fenders still come with that black muting foam installed in front of the bridge? Probably not, but that is how long it has been since I checked out any Fenders. Don't get me wrong, I would just love to have a mint 62 Jazz Bass. I would sell it and buy an S II custom.
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davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 975 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:29 am: | |
I practiced with it a while and decided that turning them down one at a time seemed to work better for me. With the S1 layout, you can't turn both of them with the side of your hand; but you can turn both of them using two fingers simultaneously. And I suppose with practice, that could be done smoothly. This is one instance where the volume/pan layout on my other basses is an advantage. |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 435 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:37 am: | |
You could always send the bass back home to get a master volume installed... |
davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 976 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:34 am: | |
Bob; that would be a consideration except for the fact that the current wait time for bench work is forever and a day. |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 436 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:39 am: | |
So, place your order and get in line. I am sure that they would let you send your bass in when your turn is come up. Okay, it won't solve your problem for a gig this week or next, but how long do you plan to own this bass? Is it "the one"? If so, then I would make the last tweak or two to perfect it now rather than ten years from now. It is cheaper in the long run to get the best right up front than to keep trading in things that aren't exactly what you want for the next step closer. Plus, you get the use of the best item for longer. Life is too short to compromise when you don't have to! Just my opinion, of course...
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davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 977 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:52 am: | |
It certainly sounds wonderful; but I'm still getting acclimated to it, especially as regards the balance. |
poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel
Post Number: 361 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:57 am: | |
Hey Dave, where are the pictures of your new bass listed? |
davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 982 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 1:08 pm: | |
Nigel; I haven't posted pics of any of my basses yet. I figured that when my Essence comes back from Santa Rosa, I would post pics of all of them at once. After all, the Essence was my first Alembic, and it should have the honor of being posted first. |
son_of_magni
Intermediate Member Username: son_of_magni
Post Number: 136 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 2:50 pm: | |
Have you tried just lightly muting the strings with your right hand right at the bridge? |
davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 984 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 4:07 pm: | |
Thanks Karl! That's work great! |
dfung60
Junior Username: dfung60
Post Number: 46 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:40 pm: | |
Hey, you're fading out anyway, right? Before you get to the last note, flip to your neck pickup and fade that down with it's volume knob. Much cheaper than buying a Series II...
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davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 985 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 6:13 am: | |
David; I've tried that and sometimes it works ok, but sometimes, especially in quieter songs, the sudden change in tone is noticable. |