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davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 973
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 7:59 am:   Edit Post

Those of you who have an Alembic with two volume controls and no master volume, how do you accomplish a smooth fade out at the end of a song?
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 433
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:32 am:   Edit Post

I have never done that with a volume control, but rather by controlling dynamics with my fingers. I suppose that if I felt the need to do it mechanically, I would use a volume pedal anyway. My fingers are too busy to be screwing around with controls continuously at any point, let alone at a key point in a tune like a fade out.

-Bob
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 974
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:44 am:   Edit Post

Bob; "fade out" was misleading. I meant the situation where you hit a note and hold it and roll the volume back to zero, hopefully at the same rate as the guitar player.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 434
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:53 am:   Edit Post

Ahh - okay. I can't remember doing that...

If I did, it would be either with a volume pedal, if I had one hooked up, or by using the side of my hand to move both volume controls simultaneously. They aren't that far apart.
johnnybassboy
New
Username: johnnybassboy

Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post

I much prefer a master volume/pickup fader setup. It is so much quicker to use, and more repeatable. Dual volume controls are strickly for traditionalists.
poor_nigel
Advanced Member
Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 359
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post

Hey Dave. I would walk over to my preamp and turn it down there, or as Bob mentioned, use a volume pedal. Next to last would be to put your index finger on the 'backside' of one volume knob and your little finger on the 'backside' of the other and try to smoothly slide your fingers downward. The final thought I would have on this would be to buy a Fender and the note should fade much quicker, naturally.

Out of curiosity, do Fenders still come with that black muting foam installed in front of the bridge? Probably not, but that is how long it has been since I checked out any Fenders. Don't get me wrong, I would just love to have a mint 62 Jazz Bass. I would sell it and buy an S II custom.
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 975
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post

I practiced with it a while and decided that turning them down one at a time seemed to work better for me. With the S1 layout, you can't turn both of them with the side of your hand; but you can turn both of them using two fingers simultaneously. And I suppose with practice, that could be done smoothly. This is one instance where the volume/pan layout on my other basses is an advantage.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 435
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post

You could always send the bass back home to get a master volume installed...
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 976
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post

Bob; that would be a consideration except for the fact that the current wait time for bench work is forever and a day.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 436
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post

So, place your order and get in line. I am sure that they would let you send your bass in when your turn is come up. Okay, it won't solve your problem for a gig this week or next, but how long do you plan to own this bass? Is it "the one"? If so, then I would make the last tweak or two to perfect it now rather than ten years from now.

It is cheaper in the long run to get the best right up front than to keep trading in things that aren't exactly what you want for the next step closer. Plus, you get the use of the best item for longer. Life is too short to compromise when you don't have to!

Just my opinion, of course...
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 977
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post

It certainly sounds wonderful; but I'm still getting acclimated to it, especially as regards the balance.
poor_nigel
Advanced Member
Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 361
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post

Hey Dave, where are the pictures of your new bass listed?
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 982
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 1:08 pm:   Edit Post

Nigel; I haven't posted pics of any of my basses yet. I figured that when my Essence comes back from Santa Rosa, I would post pics of all of them at once. After all, the Essence was my first Alembic, and it should have the honor of being posted first.
son_of_magni
Intermediate Member
Username: son_of_magni

Post Number: 136
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 2:50 pm:   Edit Post

Have you tried just lightly muting the strings with your right hand right at the bridge?
davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 984
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 4:07 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Karl! That's work great!
dfung60
Junior
Username: dfung60

Post Number: 46
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post

Hey, you're fading out anyway, right? Before you get to the last note, flip to your neck pickup and fade that down with it's volume knob.

Much cheaper than buying a Series II...

davehouck
Senior Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 985
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 6:13 am:   Edit Post

David; I've tried that and sometimes it works ok, but sometimes, especially in quieter songs, the sudden change in tone is noticable.

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