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fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1403
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 2:21 pm:   Edit Post

Just saw this one on Talkbass:


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count
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Username: count

Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post

That looks like a Viking helmet! haha, cool! Is it an actual Alembic??

Those PUs don't look like anything off the shelf though...
that_sustain
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Username: that_sustain

Post Number: 67
Registered: 8-2012
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post

Maybe they're finally trying to convert Anthony Jackson over to Alembic?? It would be pretty cool if he joined the team...
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 2666
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 5:01 pm:   Edit Post

I think it's KOOL ! That 36" scale might really kick.
tbrannon
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Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1533
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 7:52 pm:   Edit Post

Hmm- alembic pickups (and presumably electronics) have been replaced with Fodera pickups, but the originals are included with the bass.

Not my style- at all- but it's pretty cool.
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 2667
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post

It would be more desirable with the Alembic pickups and electronics for sure in my opinion.
bluplirst
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Post Number: 146
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post

looks like mr potato head wearing a cardigan :^]
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 3190
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post

Hmmmm........I can see why It's not a standard Alembic model.
I bet it sounds great though. I wonder if there are any sound clips anywhere?

Jazzyvee
5a_quilt_top
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Username: 5a_quilt_top

Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2012
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 8:36 am:   Edit Post

5 ebony neck lams + 36" scale = SPENDY!

And I'll bet it's pretty heavy.

A workout for both your wallet and your body, now that's value!
xlrogue6
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Username: xlrogue6

Post Number: 232
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 9:23 am:   Edit Post

5a got it right--if you figure what it would cost you to join a gym for 20 years, it's probably a wash. Score!
gtrguy
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Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 517
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post

Wow, that's pretty!
oujeebass
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Username: oujeebass

Post Number: 191
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post

Tomahawk like
dfung60
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Username: dfung60

Post Number: 570
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post

I'm curious what the real story is on this instrument. The "core" looks like an Alembic build, all Alembic hardware and a crown peghead and neck joint. But the body wings with the inlayed top is something I've never seen on a factory Alembic before. And both logos?

David Fung
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5256
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post

I suspect the top and back laminates were sanded away from the horns post production. But you never know (or at least until Mica chimes in!).

Bill, tgo
xlrogue6
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Username: xlrogue6

Post Number: 234
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post

I suspect you're right on the post-production body mods. I'll bet they were a weight reduction attempt, probably without significant success since those multiple ebony neck lams are the primary culprit in the likely considerable weight of this baby. Looks like it started life as a Rogue with a crown peghead to me.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7871
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post

I'm pretty sure this was a Triple Omega shape with a custom extra long upper horn originally.
rami
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Username: rami

Post Number: 988
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 2:34 pm:   Edit Post

Hey guys,

When I look at it, the front and back laminates appear as almost perfect mirror images of each other. The contouring looks very professionally done. I'm thinking that it may have been originally made like that. If it had originally been a Triple Omega, wouldn't the side cutaways be much closer to the center? On all the Triple O's I've seen, the side cutaways go almost right to the pickups. As such, you (I) can't play one sitting down. My skinny legs slip right into them.
What's a "Stock" or "Factory" Alembic anyway?

:-)


(Message edited by rami on October 31, 2012)
rami
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Username: rami

Post Number: 989
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post

See how deep the side Omegas go:




:-)
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1404
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post

I kinda agree (sorry Mica)

The lower horn looks way longer than any Alembic model I've seen. Serial number is 02C12822.
Maybe some alterations done by Fodera to a custom bodyshape?
My guess is it came with Essence electronics + side leds (only three knobs and a switch for the leds)

Rami: I bet Alembic can make you a "stand" (curved wooden strip) for the omegacut to make it easier on your legs while sitting.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10932
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post

Rami and Flip; following Mica's suggestion of a Triple-O, if you don't look at the Maple but just look at the Walnut, I think you can see it. Notice the contouring in the Walnut where the side omegas would normally be. Notice how the bottom of the contour turns up toward what would be the bottom tip of the side omega; and the contour turns back in as if it were going to turn toward the top tip of the omega, before it is taken over by the Maple. And yes, that contouring is on the front and back, as it would be on a Triple-O. For another comparison, see Val's bass here, which was also based on an Essence.

I'm wondering if perhaps the bass was damaged somehow, and the Maple horns were added to salvage the instrument.
rami
Senior Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 990
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 4:34 am:   Edit Post

Hey Dave,

I agree that the laminates are reminiscent of a Triple-O. Maybe it did start its life as a Triple-O, was damaged and the Maple sides and horns added later. If so, whoever created that did a helluva job. Perhaps with its serial number Mica can retrieve its build history and we can know for sure.

Rami
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 3196
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post

Everytime I look at it, it makes me think of a waiter with his arms up up.


jazzyvee
rami
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Username: rami

Post Number: 991
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post

I agree. Those laminates make the Bass look like it's wearing a brown apron!!!

:-) :-) :-)
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1405
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 4:33 pm:   Edit Post

At closer look, the horns do seem to be attached later, you can see the original body lams in this picture.

(Message edited by fc_spoiler on November 01, 2012)
dfung60
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Username: dfung60

Post Number: 571
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 6:18 pm:   Edit Post

Definitely an odd beast. I wonder if this started out with a "regular" body pattern but the owner didn't like the balance and (gulp) had the body wings removed and replaced? I'm trying to think of a more expensive retrofit and I'm having a hard time doing so.

David Fung
wookie
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Username: wookie

Post Number: 135
Registered: 8-2010
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post

Who would ruin an Alembic with that rediculous Fodera butterfly?! I'm I alone in this sentiment? Maybe the Duracell logo inlaid on there too, like NASCAR or something. Lame.
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 3239
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 6:03 am:   Edit Post

I'm just surprised that Fodera would want to have their logo on an instrument that they didn't create themselves. I'm pretty confident Alembic wouldn't readily put their logo on another instrument.

Jazzyvee
klinkepeter
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Username: klinkepeter

Post Number: 86
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post

Iīm wondering who would spend nearly 9000$ for a chimera..., the seller even canīt tell, which model it is (has been ?), the fact that there is no history about the bass makes me suspicious, who knows something about former damages and finaly: replaced alembic pups, this is rediculous, even the sound might be great. Aesthetically i donīt like it at all.
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1346
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post

"I'm pretty confident Alembic wouldn't readily put their logo on another instrument."

Check out these Guilds, Jazzy:





And because it's hard to see on the last one, here's its headstock:



Peter
tubeperson
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Username: tubeperson

Post Number: 396
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post

I just noticed that the bass in question is listed for sale in the Edison, NJ GTR Store, which is owned by Steve Pisani, a well known salesperson who had worked on Music Row in NYC (48th Street) for over 30 years. The website is www.gtrstore.com
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5286
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post

If I'm not mistaken, haven't these Starfires had their necks replaced by Alembic - more than just an electronics mod?

Bill, tgo
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1347
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 7:41 pm:   Edit Post

At least new headstocks (at a steeper angle, I think) - I don't know about necks. But would a new neck warrant a new logo more than major body surgery? I dunno. I do know I'd rather have an Alembicized Guild than a Foderadized Alembic! (Damn I love the tailpiece on Crosby's 12!!!)

Peter
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 3241
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 3:34 am:   Edit Post

Ok I stand corrected. :-)
But those instruments were way back in the early days of active electronics. werent those instruments modified before alembic started being an instrument maker in their own right ?

if that is the case then the logo was maybe a branding thing to get the name known for their electronic upgrades. maybe someone can enlighten me. :-)

Jazzyvee

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