| Author | Message | ||
| jcdlc72
Advanced Member Username: jcdlc72 Post Number: 247 Registered: 11-2009 |
The question rises again (It was previously dealt with on http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/17820.html?1113927709) as I was watching Toto's Past to Present DVD -nice way to spend Friday's night at home-, when it came the videoclip of Africa, there is this image of David Hungate playing what seems (at least for a glimpse) to be some kind of Alembic bass (At least the oval inlays suggest it strongly) which I (nor other club members on the aforementioned thread) could not identify. Then I decided to put the DVD on the laptop and make some screen captures, and got a couple interesting ones. On the second one, where the body can be seen a little better, I found the bridge is not what I would normally associate with Alembic. Maybe (as someone suggested before) is it a Turner bass? Anyone has more input on this? Just curious...   (Message edited by jcdlc72 on May 03, 2013) [moderator's edit for picture alignment] (Message edited by adriaan on May 04, 2013) | ||
| jimmyj
Senior Member Username: jimmyj Post Number: 447 Registered: 8-2008 |
First, I think that's a young Mike Porcaro who took over for Hungate in '82. I don't recognize the instrument but Turner is a good guess because of how the pickups look. Keep in mind that sometimes an "interesting" looking bass would be used for the video shoot only. (It doesn't appear to be plugged in...) Jimmy J | ||
| that_sustain
Intermediate Member Username: that_sustain Post Number: 155 Registered: 8-2012 |
"Ron Jeremy is waiting there for you". | ||
| jcdlc72
Advanced Member Username: jcdlc72 Post Number: 248 Registered: 11-2009 |
So it was Porcaro already then? Wow... and also I'm SO bad with faces.... | ||
| pace
Senior Member Username: pace Post Number: 933 Registered: 4-2004 |
Thanks for taking the time to get those stills! The bridge looks like a Gibson three-bolt style, but I'm not sure what is behind it... Set neck.... Verdict is still out on this one  | ||
| dela217
Senior Member Username: dela217 Post Number: 1133 Registered: 6-2002 |
That looks like some of Gary Cooper's work. Perhaps it is an early Oasis.  | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 2894 Registered: 5-2009 |
I was thinking that as well , " Oasis " | ||
| dela217
Senior Member Username: dela217 Post Number: 1134 Registered: 6-2002 |
By the way, I would love to find a bass like that!! | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 5436 Registered: 7-2004 |
The oval pickup surrounds are a characteristic of Cooper's Oasis instruments. Bill, tgo  | ||
| hifiguy
Advanced Member Username: hifiguy Post Number: 366 Registered: 10-2006 |
Definitely not an Alembic. Quite possibly a Rick Turner. Not David Hungate, either. | ||
| flpete1uw
Intermediate Member Username: flpete1uw Post Number: 179 Registered: 11-2011 |
The Bass he's playing looks like a Hollow Body? | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 2896 Registered: 5-2009 |
JA !, You betcha ! ____ Hollow body __________ | ||
| jimmyj
Senior Member Username: jimmyj Post Number: 448 Registered: 8-2008 |
A bit more on this, just because. It is indeed David Hungate playing bass on the original recording released in '82 / '83. But by the time they shot this video Mike was in the band so he had to mime along to Hungate's track... And again, no microphones, amps, or instrument cables, so this mystery bass was strictly a prop. I can't find any "live" vids of Jimmy J (Message edited by davehouck on May 05, 2013) | ||
| jimmyj
Senior Member Username: jimmyj Post Number: 449 Registered: 8-2008 |
Excuse me, typed "Steve" meant "Mike"... Got my Porcaro brothers mixed up again... Jimmy J | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1981 Registered: 9-2002 |
Actually, I was getting a laugh seeing Lukather in the background of the shot with a 'redneck' Strat: Maybe a VA-built version, but I always remember those Tokai Strats from the early 80's where they took a normal alder or ash-bodied Strat with a maple/maple neck, and shot the whole thing, fingerboard and all, in a see-thru red tint. What a hoot! I also remember they made a three-pickup Jazz, with the three JBass pickups splayed in the same layout as a Strat. Never got my hands on one of those, either . . . J o e y | ||
| terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc Post Number: 2083 Registered: 11-2004 |
Tokai 'Breezysound'(Telecaster) & 'Surfsound'(Strat). I had the Strat one and I wish I had it now as they are worth a fortune! | ||
| andertone
Junior Username: andertone Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2002 |
Looks like EMG HB pickups, too narrow for 35's, wish I could zoom on the logo on the bottom right of the pickup (Message edited by andertone on May 07, 2013) | ||
| dela217
Senior Member Username: dela217 Post Number: 1135 Registered: 6-2002 |
I was thinking the same thing. EMG's. It was originally fitted with Barts. | ||
| blazer
Advanced Member Username: blazer Post Number: 204 Registered: 12-2003 |
Lukather had an endorsement with Fernandes in those days so his red strat was in all probability one of the guitars he got through that deal.  | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1982 Registered: 9-2002 |
That's what I was thinking about . . . wonder if it was cheaper with an UN-Synchronized wiggle stick ? Floyds were big fun back in the day; played with a guitar player who just frammed the hell out of his strings, and he'd invariably break one (after chasing tuning all night long first, it was a really early iteration Floyd that did NOT have the fine tuners), and just flip out having to try and unscrew the locking clamp at the nut. It's a wonder he didn't have a stroke. J o e y | ||
| bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 1983 Registered: 9-2002 |
That's what I was thinking about . . . wonder if it was cheaper with an UN-Synchronized wiggle stick ? Floyds were big fun back in the day; played with a guitar player who just frammed the hell out of his strings, and he'd invariably break one (after chasing tuning all night long first, it was a really early iteration Floyd that did NOT have the fine tuners), and just flip out having to try and unscrew the locking clamp at the nut. It's a wonder he didn't have a stroke. After a while, his veins-bulging-in his-neck fits got old, but we did have quite a laugh after we hid the little Allen wrenches needed to perform the pit stop . . . . . J o e y | ||
| blazer
Advanced Member Username: blazer Post Number: 205 Registered: 12-2003 |
From what I can tell from that frame, Lukather's guitar doesn't have a Top Lock so it's safe to say that it doesn't have a Floyd Rose either. My music teacher back in primary School had a Fernandes Lukather but a different version: Sunburst with EMG SA pickups and a Floyd Rose.  I also just found out that the Red Lukather Signature model was a copy of a Schecter: here's Lukather's actual Schecter and the Fernandes that was based on that guitar.  Note also that in the still, Lukather's guitar has a headstock logo while his original doesn't, so he's playing a Fernandes in the video. | ||
| jcdlc72
Advanced Member Username: jcdlc72 Post Number: 252 Registered: 11-2009 |
The Lukather guitar I've been lusting for so many years, however, is this beautiful Valley Arts... It would either be this... or preferably an Alembic California Special on a similar color shade :P  |
