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Username: spose

Post Number: 36
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:17 am:   Edit Post

pardon my ignorance...but is there a relationship with the Wickersham's and BagEnd? If so what is it..if not I apologize for the strange inquiry. I'm pretty sure they have somthing to do with the ELF system...but how about the speaker cabs?

Username: spose

Post Number: 37
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:20 am:   Edit Post

I may have posted this in the wrong section of the apologies :-)
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Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 114
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:31 am:   Edit Post

they use to be called alembic cabs,,,I know that alembic built the famous "wall of sound" sound system,which is i think bag-end got the origonal idea from (OR) bag-end and alembic once were together on that project?(i could be wrong though)i use two bag-end cabs w/15s (JBL's).
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Username: tom_z

Post Number: 107
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post

Having been a Bag End (Modular Sound Systems, back then) employee for a short time in the 80s, I was aware that there was a connection of some kind. Susan has spoken about it. I could be wrong here, but I believe that Ron Wickersham invented the ELF system and is, pretty much, the godfather of time-align technology. I believe his relationship with Jim Wischmeyer (sp?) of Bag End involves technology in this area.

Just a guess at this point - my memory isn't what it could be. =)


(Message edited by tom_z on February 15, 2005)
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Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 214
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post

If you go to the Bag End site you will find info on Ron's work. The ELF is manufactured under licence from Long/Wickersham Labs under a U.S. patent.
BTW Bag End introduced a new sub with 4 21" or 24"speakers. (I can't remember, too many low frequencies!)
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Username: kmh364

Post Number: 770
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 4:40 pm:   Edit Post

Where's BKBass Barry when you need him? He's Mr. Bag End.
Username: valvil

Post Number: 647
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:23 pm:   Edit Post

Bag End used to have the license to manufacture the ELF; that's no longer the case.

Username: spose

Post Number: 38
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 5:55 am:   Edit Post

thanks for the replies! It seems everything I love about bass tone...the Wickersham's have something to do with it. I bought a SWR 1x18 cab in the late 80's and it had a BagEnd speaker in it. Is there an SWR connection as well?

Is there any publication with the history of innovations that the Wickersham's have made in bass technology? If there isn't a book about this, there should be.

thanks for the info!!

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