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jose
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Username: jose

Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post

Hi all,

I just got a new Tribute for my birthday last week. It was an incredible surprise from my brother who is also my business partner. We sold our company late last year and it was an excellent way of saying thanks. Needless to say...I'm psyched!!!

I have a couple of quick startup questions that are probably elementary.

How can i get a TRS/Effects Loop Cable? Does Alembic sell them?

Secondly, What is the standard setup for the tribute with some basic effects pedals?

I appreciate any information you can give me.

Ooo...one more question. There is a buzz on my low E string...only on that string. What should I do to clear it up?

Peace and Many Thanks,

Jose




(Message edited by jose on February 22, 2005)
serialnumber12
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Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 126
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post



(Message edited by serialnumber12 on February 22, 2005)
serialnumber12
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Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 127
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post

welcome jose!there's lots of tribute info that will be shared with you, several members will be filling you in shortly on your questions but heres somthing to snack on until then. link:http://store.yahoo.com/alembic/tribute2.html

(Message edited by serialnumber12 on February 22, 2005)
davehouck
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Post Number: 1416
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 4:14 am:   Edit Post

Hi Jose, and welcome. And congrats on the Tribute!

I don't think Alembic sells TRS cables. They are readily available at music stores, but mainly the shorter ones that are more frequently used for recording purposes. I'm guessing a longer one for use with your guitar might need to be custom made; but that's not a problem as there are lots of people out there making high quality cables at reasonable costs. One club member recently recommeneded Bayou Cables.

What kind of buzz are you getting from your string? Is it buzzing at the bridge, or on the frets?
jose
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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 8:35 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the quick response guys.

I took a quick look at Bayou Cables and I'm sure they can provide the TRS cable. I'm just not clear on what the cable looks like. Here's what I imagine.

A 1/4 inch male TRS/Stereo cable is connected to the first output on the guitart and that splits in two where one is the input to the effects loop and the other is the output.

I guess a regular 1/4 inch mono cable is then used in the second output of the guitar and sent to the amp.

Is that right?

About the buzz...It's coming from the frets and does appear slightly in the A and D strings. I figured it's a simple loosening of the truss rods but found that the truss rod nuts were already loose to the point of easily moving them with my finger tips. Should I be worried?

Thanks again,

Jose
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 1426
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 4:43 am:   Edit Post

Your cable description sounds right. If the truss rod nuts are loose, and you are happy with the relief, then tighten the nuts to where they are just snug. It could be the loose nuts that are causing the buzzing. There is currently a similar thread on buzzing here.
serialnumber12
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Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 128
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 7:16 am:   Edit Post

http://www.alembic.com/info/manual_tribute.html
jose
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post

Great, I'm ordering my cable today. Thanks again for the links.

I read the post about the buzz but I'm getting a vibration from the string against the next fret up when fretted. I adjusted the tross rods nuts to where they are just snug as you mentioned. The relief is still not enough to eliminate the buzz or vibration. I'd expect the neck to bow forward plenty by then. Any ideas? Will it bow a bit further in time?

Jose

son_of_magni
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Username: son_of_magni

Post Number: 165
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post

We need a little more info before we can give you useful advice.

How much neck relief is there? If you put a straight edge from fret 1 to fret 24 how big is the gap in the middle?

Next question is how high is the B string above the 24th fret?

From what you are saying it sounds like you will need to raise the B end of the bridge.
- SoM
jose
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Username: jose

Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 2:27 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry about the slow response, I've been out of town.

Tomorrow I'll find a ruler to measure the neck relief....

In the meantime, I raised the lower side of the bridge and it helped a bit. Basically, the fret buzz is there until I raise the action way up. I have a Telecaster that has much lower action and has no fret buzz. Other than loosening the truss rods, is there anything else that can be done?

Is it normal for a new alembic/tribute guitar to need some time to 'soften up'...? Should I call Alembic?

Another note, if I play a G, third fret on the low E string, and I do a slight neck bend the fret buzz goes away during the neck bend.

Thanks again for your help!

Jose
dfung60
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post

The quick test to see if your neck relief is sufficient would be to press each string down at the first and last (24th) fret at the same time and see that there's space between the string and the frets along it's entire length. Furthermore, the maximum amount of relief should be near the middle of the neck (10th-12th fret) and should increase gradually, then decrease. You can try this first on your Tele to see how it should look.

The amount of relief that you see at the maximum will vary according to your taste and playing style. Again, if you like the action of your Tele, then that's a good reference.

If you're seeing contact with the intermediate frets, or the gaps are uneven, then your instrument might have been manufactured with insufficient relief. That would have to be corrected at the factory (it will require fret levelling or possibly fret replacement).

Over time the neck woods will settle at a particular moisture/humidity level so there is some settling time, but you should be able to get reasonable playing action on day one if the setup was done correctly. The caveat here is that Alembic can only set the instrument up in their local climate - if your location is much less (or more)humid, it's possible that you might be out of the range of the factory setup.

If you don't feel comfortable judging this yourself, take it to a qualified local technician for an opinion. If they think there's insufficient relief, then you should consider working it out with the factory.

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