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terrapinflyer
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Username: terrapinflyer

Post Number: 8
Registered: 7-2014
Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 6:04 am:   Edit Post

Trying to decide which to purchase first F1X or SF2. Thought I'd seek some advice as to which will offer the best over all improvement. Currently using a SWR SM400S with Bag End cabs.Plus I have a good 1000 watt power amp that's just sitting on the shelf...
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4450
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 6:59 am:   Edit Post

Well, both of them can be used as pre-amps so I guess it depends if you want a filter based pre-amp or a tube driven pre-amp. Both can be used straight into your 1000 watt power amp.

If you want the ultimate in tone shaping and you don't have a series I or II bass then I'd say go for an SF-2. But If you do have a series instrument then I'd suggest that you will find the combination with the F1-x more than sufficient in the majority of circumstances and the SF-2 will get very little use.

I have a series bass and my SF-2 doesn't get used that much at all only occasionally when I need more dominance in the bottom end.
rustyg61
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Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1610
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 1:20 am:   Edit Post

Get the SF-2, it can make any amp sound incredible! It is the missing ingredient to your sound that you always wished you had but never knew how to get. I have had mine for a little over a year & used it with my Eden WT 800 & Fender Rumble 350 combo, & it made both amps sound exponentially better. It is super easy to dial in a room & find the "punch" frequency you need to get a nice punchy bottom end with crystal clear highs as well. I just bought a F-2B stereo preamp, & Jazzyvee is right, with an Alembic preamp you don't need the SF-2 as much, but I still use mine to find the sweet spot from venue to venue. I make adjustments much more on the SF-2 than on my bass or preamp. It is the "Do All" tone shaper! I will give you this advice though......don't be happy until you own BOTH! The combination of an Alembic preamp & a SF-2 is the ultimate bass rig!
rustyg61
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Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1613
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 2:07 am:   Edit Post

Timm, here is an SF-2 for sale - http://www.talkbass.com/threads/alembic-sf-2-superfilter.1145257/
moongerm
Intermediate Member
Username: moongerm

Post Number: 168
Registered: 8-2013
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 4:48 am:   Edit Post

Agreed with Jazzy and Rusty. I started off, before I even had an Alembic bass, with an SF-2. I was running a Carl Thompson bass through it all the time and I was able to get a very wide variety of tones to make the bass sound much better. I just recorded a tune for album with the SF2 on my passive Carl Thompson recently and it really helped add, remove and shape frequencies that would be very difficult or unlikely to do with other effectors. You can really create your own unique sound with them. It also helped the bass sit in the mix and cut through at the same time.
hammer
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Username: hammer

Post Number: 686
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 2:41 pm:   Edit Post

Heres another SF-2 which with price drop would be $650

http://austin.craigslist.org/msg/4919959846.html
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 1983
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post

I guess I'll provide a dissenting voice. I love the SF-2 but find myself hardly using mine because I found that I was just using it to try to fix deficiencies that were better addressed elsewhere, from pickups to speakers to technique. Once all those other things were ironed out, then the F1X or F2B made a lot more sense because the basic tone over the whole frequency spectrum benefits. But eventually it will probably have to be both. :-)
terrapinflyer
Junior
Username: terrapinflyer

Post Number: 11
Registered: 7-2014
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2015 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post

Thank you everyone for the input. I received my SF-2 wednesday. What a fantastic tool for "sonic exploration"! Thus far I've only played my Essence through it, I'm sure the Spoiler will yield some spectacular results as well.
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1632
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2015 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post

Congratulations Timm! Once you figure out what everything does on the SF-2 you won't be able to live without it!

Here are some threads that may help you learn it -

http://alembic.com/club/messages/16271/17596.html?1112538443
moongerm
Intermediate Member
Username: moongerm

Post Number: 179
Registered: 8-2013
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2015 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post

Congrats and enjoy.

-Brian

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