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samsamaha
Junior
Username: samsamaha

Post Number: 13
Registered: 4-2015
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2015 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post

Hello again, it's the new guy... did a search and found some old discussions but as things change I'm curious what some of you (you that slap) are using to get that nice bright "Zing" tone? I tried my usual Dean Markley Helix steels but they were a bit too clanky and noisy on the neck... with those robus fret wires, I think I need something more subtle.. Shall I stick with the Alembic's? How are the Rotosounds?

Nickel alloy for sure? or will Steel work? Seems steel is a bit too noisy from what I was able to gleen.. I put the Alembics back on, but they're a bit flat... not sure if they're just older, or what.
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2199
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 5:27 am:   Edit Post

Personally I have always preferred nickel plated strings. I use Alembic strings on my small body, short scale basses. On my 5 string Orion I have been using the Dean Markley Roundcore NPS strings but I'm not sure if they are available anymore. On my fretless I use D'Addario Chromes which are a flat wound string.

Keith
mario_farufyno
Senior Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 1094
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post

Regardless slapping or not, I dig nickel strings, too. I feel it kind of matches better the proeminent highs of my Alembic.

But I'd like to point out that Alembic's filter sound different from regular bass systems. An Alembic can really puts out lots of higher harmonics from its PUs and I rarely open the filter all the way up. Also, when Q switch is engaged, it can give a big boost around the point the filters cut. An open filter with its Q engaged can make strings sounds really clanky...
samsamaha
Junior
Username: samsamaha

Post Number: 16
Registered: 4-2015
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post

Yeah, I quickly figured that out Mario. My initial ASSumption was that I'd open it all up, since I saw doing otherwise as "limiting" the bass's tone... Then I realized that this is excessive. I'm still toying with settings, but I have sort of gravitated away from pure steel strings also, maybe I'll look at coated steels later. For now, I placed an order for more Alembic sets and I'll stick with those and see how they go.
stout71
Advanced Member
Username: stout71

Post Number: 252
Registered: 7-2011
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post

I've used Rotosound Funkmasters in the past. They are steel, but I really liked their brightness - but that was on my Warwick. They don't make a 5-string set so I can't use them on my Alembic. The strings are REALLY light gauge, 30-90 so the string spacing is a little weird getting used to at first.
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4471
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post

D'addario EPS170-5SL ProSteels 5-String Bass, Light, 45-130, Super Long Scale and they have a great bright tone that works well for slapping. Plus point for me is they seem to keep they brightness for a good while longer than the Ken Smith, Fodera, DR and RCocco strings I've tried in the past. I had alembic strings on my bass in the past but they are far too expensive here in the UK. I will pick some up next time I'm in the states. :-)

http://www.daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=157&productname=EPS170_5SL_ProSteels_5_String_Bass__Light__45_130__Super_Long_Scale
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1991
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post

DR Sunbeams. My favorite rounds.
moongerm
Intermediate Member
Username: moongerm

Post Number: 174
Registered: 8-2013
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 4:43 am:   Edit Post

DR High Beams and Sunbeams.
malthumb
Senior Member
Username: malthumb

Post Number: 572
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 7:21 am:   Edit Post

One of the many, many, cool things about Alembics is that the electronics allow so much flexibility that there is no one "string for slap".

One of my Alembics almost always wears DR Black Beauties. I like the feel, tone, and durability of the coated roundwounds. I get all the zing I want (or need) out of those. I also use the same strings on two Music Man Sabres. Again, all the zing I need.

My other Alembic wears Ken Smith Burners or Rock Masters. Mainly because I bought a whole crapload of them years a go for practically nothing and I am slowly working my through them. They are not bad, I just like DR BB and DR Phat Beams a LOT more, so those are the strings that go on my gigging basses.
samsamaha
Junior
Username: samsamaha

Post Number: 18
Registered: 4-2015
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 7:48 am:   Edit Post

I got a set of DR Pure Blues and tried them on, they sound good...not as noisy with some Zing.. maybe I'll try and brave some Steels by DR next. Only wish they had a silk winding on them, but they do sound great!
5a_quilt_top
Senior Member
Username: 5a_quilt_top

Post Number: 492
Registered: 6-2012
Posted on Monday, April 13, 2015 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post

Alembic and D'addario XL.

I'm lucky, strings stay bright and last a long time for me. Even if my strings are a little old and don't sound as bright as when new, the clarity and versatility of the Alembic electronics makes it easy to compensate, so I'm not a picky as I used to be about string tone.

So, for me it's more about how the strings feel, and I like the the way Alembic and D'addario XL's respond for slap. Not too stiff or too pliable.
samsamaha
Junior
Username: samsamaha

Post Number: 20
Registered: 4-2015
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post

Ok, after experimenting with LITERALLY a half a dozen brands of string:

-Dean Markley Helix - Steel
-Dunlop Super Brings (nickel plated)
-LaBela - round wound steel
-DR Pure Blues
-Alembic CX3 - Nickel plated

I came to the following conclusion...

The best sounding strings to my ear and most balanced between highs and brightness, and noise and clank were the Alembics! Go figure... it's just my luck since they are very hard to find and cost a fortune!

Anyway, close second was DR blue's and Dunlop Superbright, the pure steel strings I found to harsh and noisy, especially with low action the way I have it setup.

The good news is I am able to recycle those strings onto my Spector and Fender as both of those do fine with steels the way I have them setup.
mario_farufyno
Senior Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 1095
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2015 - 5:50 am:   Edit Post

Sam, as you liked Alembic's most, you could try other brand's nickel roller/pressurewound sets...
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1994
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2015 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post

I think Mario is offering good advice. As a sometime endorser of DR strings, I've found that their different strings have very different feels and sounds. Judging them all by one model is not very accurate. I would try the Sunbeams, based on what you seem to like. The Alembics are very nice, though.
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1680
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2015 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post

+1 on Sunbeams. They're my favorite.
growlypants
Intermediate Member
Username: growlypants

Post Number: 129
Registered: 3-2011
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2015 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post

I may have to give them a try now. I've been using Alembics for years, finally switched to D'Addario XL's, but find them just a bit too thumpy. But the Alembics are a tad too bright and light. (Sigh...)
samsamaha
Junior
Username: samsamaha

Post Number: 21
Registered: 4-2015
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2015 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post

I will try a set of Sunbeams for reference... I did like the Pure Blues 2nd best, and the Dunlop 3rd... so yes, the nickel plated were to my liking... less clanky and noise with my low action setup.

But I found a good deal on Alembic's thru a guy on the east coast, and placed an order for 6 sets, so that should last me for at least a year or more ( I change strings often).
samsamaha
Junior
Username: samsamaha

Post Number: 32
Registered: 4-2015
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2015 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post

I haven't tried them on my Alembic yet, so I will report back when I do as I'm out of town for another week or so.. however today, while bored and killing time in Seattle, I walked into a guitar center (I know, I know)... to try a few basses and they had this import model EBMM Stingray, but what was interesting wasn't the bass, but rather the flat wound strings that came on it... they were VERY bright, and punchy with a great overall tone... Best of all they looked and felt exactly like any other flatwound... I picked up a set for $35 from them to try my bass when I get home.. not sure if I'll slap them on the Alembic or one of my others yet.. but they sounded much like this ad for them..

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