Weight of Epic vs Orion

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Author Message tomhug Intermediate Member Username: tomhug Post Number: 175 Registered: 7-2008 Posted on Sunday, May 24, 2015 - 4:39 pm:    Generally speaking, and assuming identical wood composition, which would tend to be lighter, an Epic or an Orion? edwardofhuncote Advanced Member Username: edwardofhuncote Post Number: 366 Registered: 6-2014 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 3:32 am:    I would *guess* Epic to be lightest in a same-same comparison. tomhug Intermediate Member Username: tomhug Post Number: 176 Registered: 7-2008 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 7:07 am:    Hmm. I am wondering. I have an Epic 5-string, and it's my heaviest bass by almost a pound at 10 lbs, 11 oz. (since I sold my 12.5 lb all-maple 6-string Essence). I do not own an Orion. Looking at body shapes, I'm wondering if the somewhat larger upper bout cut-out might help the Orion in terms of the actual amount of wood used in the body. keith_h Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 2219 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 8:02 am:    What woods are in your Epic? That will make a big difference when comparing bass weights. Keith tomhug Intermediate Member Username: tomhug Post Number: 177 Registered: 7-2008 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 8:15 am:    - Mahogany body - Flamed Walnut top & Matching headstock - Maple accent woods That's kind of what I am asking: Assuming an Orion with the same woods formulation, which would tend to be lighter, the Epic or the Orion? fc_spoiler Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 1730 Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 8:33 am:    Well... I should put my Orion on the scale, it's exactly the same except for body/headstock and tailpiece shape. (and some added electronics) I'll see if I can find one :-) fc_spoiler Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 1731 Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 9:14 am:    Amazingly found one very quick :-) 4,7 Kg - = +/- 10,4 lb keith_h Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 2220 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 9:41 am:    I just weighed my Orion 5 that has the same woods as yours and come up with a weight of between 9.5 and 9.75 Lbs. I couldn't get a more accurate reading due to me having to steady the instrument on the balance scale plate. The numbers jive with the weight on my much less accurate bathroom scale so should be close to the actual weight. My guess is the average weight is going to be similar between the two models. Keith keith_h Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 2221 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 9:53 am:    Just for giggles and grins I weighed a couple of other basses. My Orion 4 string fretless with an ash body, maple neck and spalted maple top came in at 10.25 to 10.5 Lbs and my 4 string Brown Bass with myrtle core, mahogany/birch/walnut neck and walnut top/back came in a 9.25 Lbs. Keith fc_spoiler Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 1732 Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 12:11 pm:    More giggles: '83 Spoiler, solid Koa bodywings and 3 piece Maple neck: 4180 gram, 9.2 lbs '88 Spoiler, Mahogany body with Coco Bolo (or Bocate) top, 3 piece Maple neck: 4425 gram, 9.8 lbs '90 Elan, Maple body with quilted Maple top, 3 piece Maple neck: 4490 gram, 9.9 lbs (sold) '06 Custom fretless, Mahogany body with Spalted Maple top, Maple neck with Walnut pinstripes: 3955 gram, 8.7 lbs (sold) '10 Elan, Maple body with Flamed Maple top, 7 piece Flame Maple/Purpleheart neck: 5,240 Kg, 11,6 lbs Series I will be on the scale next week :-) tomhug Intermediate Member Username: tomhug Post Number: 178 Registered: 7-2008 Posted on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 12:26 pm:    Great info, and beautiful collection. Thanks! tomhug Intermediate Member Username: tomhug Post Number: 179 Registered: 7-2008 Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 5:25 pm:    In keeping with the sampling of bodies and weights, here are my current & former Alembics: 1977 Series I, 10 lbs, 10 oz. / 4.81 kg. (Walnut top & back, Cherry body, Maple, Beech, Purpleheart neck) 1993 Essence 6-string Maple/Maple, 11 lbs, 15 oz / 5.41 kg (actually thought is was over 12... but I guess it was my imagination) I no longer own this one. Miss it sometimes. And the recent acquisition (above) the 1995 Epic 5, 10 lbs, 11 oz: I'm still looking for more info re: Orion vs. Epic. From the small sampling so far (and other research online), it seems the Orions run just slightly lighter than the Epics. fc_spoiler Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 1750 Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 3:53 pm:    1979 Series I Walnut top+back, 5 KG, 11 lbs