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jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4610
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 1:12 am:   Edit Post

There seem to have been quite a lot of musical instrument thefts reported on-line of late and the one Mica reported here recent of a theft of a load of instruments has rekindled my interest in finding a good GPS tracking device which can be safely fitted inside an instrument without damage or inducing noise into the electronics and output.

A few years back I bought a GPS tracker which was the size of a small matchbox that I fitted inside the padding of my flightcase. Whilst it worked and I could see on a map where it was, the downside was that it kept sending me false messages which ran the battery and sim card credit down. Since then I've sporadically done some investigation to see what is new on the market and have seen some small bluetooth technology devices like the "Tile" that would be small enough but it has a small range of 100 feet and since it relies on other mobile phone users having the tracker app on their phones to locate it's whereabouts, being able to find things could take a while depending on how bit the tile network of users is.

So I wonder if anyone has any experience of good trackers. I seem to remember Keavin having some cell phone type device inside number 12 at some point.
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 2408
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 1:24 am:   Edit Post

I have the ideal tracker, my bass never leaves my line of sight at a gig and my karate skills are the deterrent !
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4611
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 1:55 am:   Edit Post

I guess in your case Terry all you need then is a T-shirt with this on the front or on our bass case. :-)

Not having any recent training in martial arts, I'd rather not have to punch someone and risk hand damage. :-) Can I hire you as my bass bodyguard. :-)
Joking aside, unfortunately there are other places where instruments get lifted, not just at gigs where your physical presence can be a deterrent. The keyboard player in one of the bands I was in got his Korg M1 stolen by someone from the crew who were helping clear the stage after the gig. Another friend had his bass stolen from his home whilst he was asleep on the sofa in the same room!!! Fortunately it was found at a local music store having been sold to the shop by the thief.
serialnumber12
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Username: serialnumber12

Post Number: 1104
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 4:29 am:   Edit Post

terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 2409
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 5:04 am:   Edit Post

Jazzy my hands are perfectly conditioned for punching the crap out of anyone who would try!
Yes, these people have no morals at all, you save up for yor beloved instrument only for these low life to think it is 'just a guitar'.
What is even worse, the police won't even come to yous assistance now over burglaries because they have deduced that it is not serious enough for them to do!
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2258
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 5:37 am:   Edit Post

I don't have any idea on trackers. If I am out on a gig my wife stays with the basses until I am done loading the rig and ready to leave. I have a monitored alarm system on my house for multiple reasons but my instruments are one of them. I have been looking at getting a larger gun safe that would also hold my basses when we are away from the house traveling. Not only would it provide theft protection but would also provide some fire resistance.

Keith
ed_zeppelin
Junior
Username: ed_zeppelin

Post Number: 28
Registered: 2-2010
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 8:20 am:   Edit Post

I use Snagg: http://tinyurl.com/Snagg-flyer

The GPS tracker is about the size of a Tic-tac box. (At my age, I'm considering having one implanted somewhere. Y'never know when you'll get lost on the way back from the bathroom.)

The RFID chips (about ten bucks each) are smaller than a grain of rice. I take a strap button off and extend the screw hole a little, dab some glue on the chip, drop it in and stick the button back on. Nobody will ever know it's there (except you guys, of course :-) )

Oh yeah, here's their website (duh, I knew I was forgetting something) http://www.snagg.com/

(Message edited by Ed_zeppelin on August 07, 2015)
mavnet
Member
Username: mavnet

Post Number: 59
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post

Snagg seems brilliant. Would be a great option for Alembic to offer built in, with a tap onto the power coming into the bass (at least on series instruments) to trickle charge the batteries. Might be able to use a smaller battery that way (there's not much room in the electronics cavities of my basses).
funkyjazzjunky
Senior Member
Username: funkyjazzjunky

Post Number: 999
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2015 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post

Carvin used to offer Snagg
rv_bass
Member
Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 64
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2015 - 4:16 am:   Edit Post

I don't know much about them, but perhaps an RFID would work.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification
ed_zeppelin
Junior
Username: ed_zeppelin

Post Number: 29
Registered: 2-2010
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2015 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post

There are two methods, each with their own advantages and limitations. GPS trackers (as shown in the innards of the fine *Alembic bass earlier in this thread) allow you and police to track it anywhere on the face of the earth. Handy, that.

Their limitations are their size (they're about the size of a Tic-tac box: http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/45197-Hello-Kitty-Tic-Tacs.jpg ) with a battery life of three years on average. They don't interfere with electronics, by the way. So feel free to take a router to your instruments, or a chisel and hammer.

RFID chips only identify it as yours. Most pawnshops, music stores and police departments have scanners that identify all makes of chips, but they don't actually track your valuables.

Snagg makes both types, and their GPS trackers seem to be smaller than others I've seen.

To see the latest advances in the technologies, search out tracking devices for bicycles. Lo-Jack and myriad other companies make an astonishing variety of devices and strategies, from devices that notify you by phone if something is even moved to death-rays fired from satellites that turn the thieving miscreant into a pile of smoldering ash. (If I had my way ...)


*are those two trapezoidal objects in the lower left of the cavity spare pickups? I've studied the innards carefully, and it think I found room for two more knobs. Possibly three. :-)
dela217
Senior Member
Username: dela217

Post Number: 1161
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2015 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post

Those trapezoidal objects are hum cancellers for each pickup. I have those in my bass too 72 16.
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 2099
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2015 - 8:02 pm:   Edit Post

I wonder if the rechargeable Snagg GPS can be powered off the Series power supply.

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