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| carlos shilinsky (shilinsky)
New Username: shilinsky Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hi, im just wondering what are the diferences in signature and deluxe basses?, also the clarke and king models,if they are the same signature, what made them diferent from each other?, and what is the sonically and electronic dif. between the series 1-2, and the signature std. and deluxe? thanks. | ||
| Paul Lindemans (palembic)
Member Username: palembic Post Number: 81 Registered: 9-2002 |
Hi Carlos, just a few notes because there are other people who can answer more accurate. "signature" means the model is endorsed by a certain player: you have Stanley Clarke, Mark King and (for EU) Edwin Van Huik "signature" basses. Those players influenced the design of those (shape or ellectronics) basses in a particular way or the construction is based on a Alembic model that player specifically liked. The "deluxe" means that capping of front and back are in identical woods. For instance: top and back in Rosewood, Quilted maple etc. So "signature" stands for an endorser, "deluxe" for a wood-capping finish. Take care: the "endorsers" we were talking about ORIGINALLY played on Series I and II basses. The basses and guitars with these circuits and PU are Alembic "flagships". You better wail around a bit on the site and peep at the different models and their description. Mayor characteristic: the SI and II are guitars with giant "Single coil" PU with a "dummy humcanceller" between them. THat's why most people step up to you when you play such a bass or guitar and react like :Why do you need 3 pick-ups"? The middle one is not a pick-up but merely a kind of noise gate. By designing the "signatures" Alembic has put more "affordable" electronics in those guiatrs, based on the "humbucking" principle. The pick-ups have about the same shape but are in fact two stacked magnets. By winding the magntes the opposite way one can reach a "hum-cancelled" result, it's a physical law. Tone controls -to a certain height- are the same (or have the same principle) on all Alembics. Sonic difference is to bring back to a "magnet" thing: the difference between "single coil" and "humbucker". I'm doing no justice to the Alembic craftmanship here but this is basic. I hope Mica can forgive me this. I just discovered myself that SI and SII's are in fact "hollow-bodies". For weight reasons and place for the electronics and circuitry. Take a peep at the threat we started at "Yieeeeeks-I have a Hollowbody?!" For more detailed info on tone I suggest you walk around a bit through the different threats on this club and I'm sure you'll figure out a lot. The best thing you can do is find a place where you can try these guitars! CU Paul | ||
| Paul Lindemans (palembic)
Member Username: palembic Post Number: 82 Registered: 9-2002 |
Hi Carlos 2, after some rethinking during the day I came up with some extra's. These Alembicians are very weird from time to time. In a way we Alembic-players are very happy with that because so they can come into our (sometimes) wild ideas about guitars and basses. How I understand it: the names Epic, Elan, Europa, Spoiler etc ... are at tthe same time the name of a model (design of the guitar) and the name of a type of electronic circuitry (e.a. tone control, PU, etc...). Evrything is clear as long as you stick in the same family: Epic withe Epic electronics, Elan with Elan etc. ... BUT ... they don't stick that way. Or better, we clients don't stick that way: so you can order a Epic with Elan electronics etc... .It's mixing up! To make it more complicate: the "signature" are some models (see the other post) but is also a configuration of electronics. So in principle you can order a Europa bass with "Signature" electronics. On top of that: the SI and SII ( I think S stands for standard) were never actually "models" in the way of design. It is mere the name for an electronic circuitry. BUT (again) at Alembic they speak about a "standard" body (see Mark KIng) and a Small Standard body (see Stanley Clark). In the early Alembic years thise two body's (the S's) were the guitars available as a "serie" product. But: they made most of the time customised products. It's as is written somewhere: "Customized???? They wrote the book on customized". As far my knowlegde! Paul |
