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Oil (erroneus_jones)
Junior Username: erroneus_jones
Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 8:41 am: | |
I would like to know if it would be possible to make a bass sound like the low notes on a piano... Other words : If a piano has strings, would it be possible to get those rich lows with that natural equal sound? Scale, strings, other stuff I don't know about bass making... WHAT could give this sound? After all, both instruments have strings... Hope to finally get some answers, cause it would be great to have a piano sounding bass for slap and chords. Thx Alembiciens, I hope to be one some day too. Olivier |
Wade Handy (oujeebass)
New Username: oujeebass
Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 11:32 am: | |
I used to use a "piano string design" string by Rotosound. I don't think they make them anymore. I believe they did provide the overtones similar to a piano for about a week. It will be hard to replicate the sound with the physics involved. |
Oil (erroneus_jones)
Junior Username: erroneus_jones
Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 1:12 pm: | |
Thx for that answer, but what exactly would those physics be? (I know that strings get fret burns, but I have used the same strings for about 6 months now, no wash, and that sound fuller then new strings on a demo in a store) Mica, could you tell me what would bring the future europa to a similay sound then piano? Olivier |
Oil (erroneus_jones)
Junior Username: erroneus_jones
Post Number: 15 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 2:56 pm: | |
I looked at those Rotosound strings, you are right, they use the core end consept like the piano. Alembic says theye electronic give a greater natural sound. The thing is, I hear that Stanley C. uses those same strings, but I do no want that sound (I really want lots of tones, and a vibrating sound) I was going for a medium or a long scale, but if 36 inches could help me get a rich, bright, sustained sound, with no buzz, BUT STILL HAVE A EXTREME LOW ACTION... (I like the action to be unbelivably low, but hate what big string nazal sound.) Hope I finaly found that dream sound... Still hope to get a Pro's opinion. After all, YOU will make that bass. |
Paul Ellsworth (elzie)
Junior Username: elzie
Post Number: 38 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 3:06 pm: | |
I think first you should look at how a piano strikes the strings and a bass plucks/picks the strings. I have tried this in years past. I would flick my finger to strike the string with the nail side of my finger, as in a piano striking the string. It does sound similar, but I can gaarauntee your fingers won't like you much |
Mark DuFresne (markus)
Junior Username: markus
Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 7:01 pm: | |
Or, you could try Tony Levin's Funk Fingers and hammer on the strings to your heart's content. |
Wade Handy (oujeebass)
Junior Username: oujeebass
Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 10:55 am: | |
It will be impossible to get the sound of a piano string on a bass string. You'll have better luck with a harp. Thats something that has been overlooked by popular music. |
Oil (erroneus_jones)
Junior Username: erroneus_jones
Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 1:22 pm: | |
Ya... after all, a bass isn't a piano. But still, it would be great to sound like a left hand on piano, specially with chords and slap. I hope alembic has a sound rich enough to make piano players "envy" my bass sound ;) |
Wade Handy (oujeebass)
Junior Username: oujeebass
Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 1:50 pm: | |
Absolutely. I have had the idea of that for a while.. You can get close but never will you have a sound that rivials a 5 foot bass string vibrating freely. |
Joey Wilson (bigredbass)
Junior Username: bigredbass
Post Number: 26 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 9:27 am: | |
Having been a piano player all of my life, and a bass guitarist for the last 25, I can tell you this: With the right gear and NEW strings, a bass can approach the sound of a piano. But, NO BASS will ever sound like the deep end of a 7' Steinway or Yamaha. I guess you could MIDI with a bass/synth rig to sampled grands, but that's a LOT of aggravation. The physics of the two instruments are just too different. But I understand wanting that sound. I remember playing a Bosendorfer grand years ago like it was yesterday. I remember great grand pianos I've played vividly. |
Michael DeVincenzo (jlpicard)
Junior Username: jlpicard
Post Number: 49 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 9:36 pm: | |
Hey Oil, If your looking for a piano sound from a bass you might look at Neuser basses. They actually make a bass with piano hammers built in to the body between the pickups that you activate by pressing some sort of levers in the body just below the G string.To quote Frank Z....Bizzare!!!! but it just might get the sound your looking for. Look on Harmony Central for their web address. Mike |
Olivier Jaar (erroneus_jones)
Junior Username: erroneus_jones
Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 4:24 am: | |
Thx for that... looks pretty kool, but there is no way I can get my hands on one to try it... ;) |