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brent
Junior
Username: brent

Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post

Is there anybody out there that can tell me the price on one of these? Preferrably the price you get when you go through a dealer. I emailed Valentino a while ago and I'm pretty sure he told me the list price was $575. I emailed many dealers and only got a response from one, Bass Central, and was told that it would be $592. I'm sorry if there has already been a thread on this, but the search engine doesn't seem to be working.
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1704
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 5:08 am:   Edit Post

$495 MSRP (plus S&H directly from Alembic, usually in-stock)

http://alembic.com/club/messages/395/23978.html?1137242772
brent
Junior
Username: brent

Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 7:28 am:   Edit Post

Thanks a lot. I don't see why Bass Central would tell me it is $592.
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1713
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 8:01 am:   Edit Post

Well, unless they've had a susbstantial price increase on the order of 20% since 1/12/06, I'd say someone is in error.
worldfamousandy
Junior
Username: worldfamousandy

Post Number: 48
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post

Edwin has mentioned that these power supplies are easy to build...
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1717
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 5:48 am:   Edit Post

I imagine they are fairly easy to build, with a decent knowledge of electronics and some soldering/fab skills.

While we're in experimental mode:

Just for sh*ts and giggles, I'm wondering if anybody has built their own...more specifically, OVERbuilt their own...Series power supply? I am referring to an oversized power supply...much in the way that hi-end hi-fi OEM's overdesign the power supplies of their amps, pre-amps, and ancillary devices for increased headroom, lower noise floors, etc. Further, has anybody done same and added voltage regulation, noise filtering, etc. to said power supply?

I'm just wondering what effects std. hi-fi practice would produce with regards to our favorite instrument's sound.
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 752
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 6:21 am:   Edit Post

Kevin,

We're talking bass/guitar amplification here, which as a rule does not involve a fragile mic at the start and a hi-fi speaker at its end. I'm not saying there's no point in keeping the signal as clean as possible, and to give it all the headroom you can.

Also, you don't want too little colouration down the signal path - you don't want to be accused of sounding sterile, do you? So be careful with what you wish for ...
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1721
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post

I'm not inferring that there's anything wrong with Alembic's electronics, i.e., that which needs any improvement. I'm talking tweeks to maybe provide more of a good thing, not anything detrimental to the sound we know and love.

I've heard the difference "clean", regulated, filtered power can have on my Eden bass amp rig with my EMW'd Orion, nevermind what it does for a hi-end hi-fi home stereo rig. Headroom, noise floor, "bloom", etc., have all been improved via usage of a top-shelf power line filter with voltage regulation/correction and huge storage caps that provides clean sinusoidal A/C power of the correct stabilized voltage with huge reserves on tap just in case it's needed (in this case, via usage of a Tice Audio Power Block II/TPT, no longer made).

I'm just wondering if anyone has acheived something similar with mods. on a Series PS.

Cheers,

Kevin
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 753
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:26 am:   Edit Post

Hm, the joys of being attached to the US powergrid, I guess.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3159
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post

Adriaan; I often dream about being off the grid.
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1723
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:39 am:   Edit Post

Ed Zachary, er, um, exactly, LOL!

BTW and FWIW, while it may or may not pertain to Alembics, which have excellent build quality and Active electronics to start with, Tuck Andress goes on and on about how his hi-fi wiring/electronics "mods" have transformed the sound of his Gibson L-5 archtop on his site.

http://www.tuckandpatti.com/guitarsound.html

As an avid audiophile, music lover, and musical instrument freak, I'm always looking for something "better". My guitar tech is currently performing mods on my "poorman's L-5" Heritage Golden Eagle in the vein of Tuck's mod's...custom wound p/u, re-wire with audiophile-grade wiring, control mods, etc. I'm just attempting to make a good thing even better, and my guy has already proven that these mods. do indeed improve the sound of this particular passive instrument.

Just food for thought.

Cheers,

Kevin
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 754
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:43 am:   Edit Post

Dave, you'll have to help me out here - is that a joke, a thinly diguised complaint, or both?
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3160
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:56 am:   Edit Post

Adriaan; no joke, no complaint. I would like to have solar panels on my roof.
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 1724
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 8:01 am:   Edit Post

See, there is a madness to his method, er, um, method to his madness, LOL! J/K

Cheers,

Kevin
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 755
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 8:10 am:   Edit Post

Dave, you should receive a generous amount of applause. Not sure how to get it to you, but it's the thought that counts. 1, 2, 3 ... sorry, that was me counting. Who? Me. Ah, it was you. No, it was you.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3162
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post

Thank you; and for my next number I'm going to dream about an electric car to plug into my off the grid solar panel system. In the key of E; 1, 2, 3 ...
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 756
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post

And you're sure you don't live in California?
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3163
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post

<g> !!!
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 3062
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post

The price would be higher if you are requesting a power supply and a 5-pin cable. These items are priced separately, $550 retail for the DS-5R and $190 retail for the 20-foot 5-pin cable.
brent
Junior
Username: brent

Post Number: 14
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post

Well i guess that's what it was. Why is the cable so expensive?
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 3069
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post

Handmade in small quantites, like everything else we make here. We are happy to provide you with a service sheet to build your own cable if you like.
series_iii
Junior
Username: series_iii

Post Number: 22
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 7:24 pm:   Edit Post

just chiming in here. i have one 5-pin cable that gets plugged into all 3 of my series basses on a regular basis. that hand made cable is the most well made cable i have ever seen and i highly reccomend that you purchase one from alembic if you have a series bass.

cheers

=T
brent
Junior
Username: brent

Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 9:28 pm:   Edit Post

well..i have the original cable for my 76 Series 1. It is a little short though. I'll guess i'll have to upgrade to the rackmount DS-5 and the 20' cable in a little. Thanks for everything guys.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 959
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 6:39 am:   Edit Post

Brent:

Let me know if you want to sell your short one. The Series 1 guitar I just bought off of eBay is coming sans power supply & cable. Given my set up, I'd prefer a shorter cable anyway.

Bill, tgo
brent
Junior
Username: brent

Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 9:29 pm:   Edit Post

Bill,

Will do. But it may not be for a while because I am rather moneyless.

Brent

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