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elzie
Advanced Member
Username: elzie

Post Number: 368
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 2:03 pm:   Edit Post

How does Alembic get that yellowish aged look on some of the finishes. I remember seing a picture of one in the spray booth a few years back. It looked great and I was wondering how it was done. That is, if it isn't a trade secret.
dfung60
Intermediate Member
Username: dfung60

Post Number: 130
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 3:39 pm:   Edit Post

I'm sure you'll get a definitive answer from Mica or Valentino, but I believe that the way that they get that yellowish look is... are you ready?... it's a little yellow dye in the varnish!
byoung
Advanced Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 214
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 5:30 pm:   Edit Post

Quilted maple looks *awesome* with a little bit of yellow tint. It really makes it pop.
s_wood
Intermediate Member
Username: s_wood

Post Number: 182
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post

It sure does! Check this out:

http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/3335.html?1131567795
byoung
Advanced Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 215
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post

Steve,

Your Europas are exactly what I was thinking of. Mmmmmm... amber tinty goodness.

Will you put me in your will? Please?

Brad
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 990
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 4:50 pm:   Edit Post

I couldn't agree more on light amber tint over maple. The plan for my getting-closer-to-being-finished custom Further has included a light amber tint on the 5A quilted top from the very begining.

Bill, tgo
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 625
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post

I wonder . . . does ALEMBIC do the spray tints only, or do they do the 'dye job' where the color is hand-rubbed into the wood first, ala PRS and others?

Most painters have their 'recipe' for amber or yellowed/aged clear, or whatever you prefer to call it, usually revolving around adding yellow or even a little orange into the clear.

J o e y
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 991
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post

Alembic tints the finish. They don't stain the wood. It makes it much easier to refinish or even change it down the line.

Bill, tgo
elzie
Advanced Member
Username: elzie

Post Number: 369
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 5:02 pm:   Edit Post

Who would've thought it would be as easy as tinting the finish? I thought there may be a special additive or technique. There I go over-thinking things again.....


Paul TGO
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3247
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 5:41 am:   Edit Post

Bong water.
byoung
Advanced Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 218
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 7:35 am:   Edit Post

So, Dave,

I think your "additive" might end up causing something a bit more black than amber.

And it might be too oily to mix with finish. Haven't you ever spilled any on your clothing? You can't get that stuff out.

Brad
Disclaimer- I was a minor when I found this stuff out and the records have been expunged :-). I might've inhaled, but I've been clean since 1989.

(Message edited by byoung on February 18, 2006)
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 996
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 9:25 am:   Edit Post

Dave:

Good one!

Bill, tgo
old_guy
Junior
Username: old_guy

Post Number: 13
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post

Stand-Up comedy at its best. This does explain why some nites my 76 S-1 does funny things. I should have taken it to rehab with me! Name Withheld. Great comeback Dave! Funny how the brain reverts to primal era's.
s_wood
Intermediate Member
Username: s_wood

Post Number: 184
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post

Here's another example of using an amber tint to make the quilted maple squeal!

http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/25330.html

In the old days, we used cigarette smoke to do this, but since most of the bars in Delaware, Philadelphia and New York where I usually play are now smoke-free we have to rely upon Alembic to synthesize toxicity for us!
jazzyvee
Advanced Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 371
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post

I have an orion guitar since December.
When I first had it the finish on the front was sort of matt coating over the Quilted maple.

Since then i have noticed it is going shiny where my arm rests on the guitar and where my fingers touch the guitar during playing.
It's not what I particularly want, so I wondered if anyone knows how to care for the guitar so that I can keep the matt finish in tact.
Jazzyvee
jazzyvee
Advanced Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 372
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 8:58 am:   Edit Post

I have an orion guitar since December.
When I first had it the finish on the front was sort of matt coating over the Quilted maple.

Since then i have noticed it is going shiny where my arm rests on the guitar and where my fingers touch the guitar during playing.
It's not what I particularly want, so I wondered if anyone knows how to care for the guitar so that I can keep the matt finish in tact.
Jazzyvee

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