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olieoliver
Junior Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 36 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:36 pm: | |
How does everyone feel about hanging your Alembic via the Crown with a wall guitar hanger or do you recommend a traditional stand? I keep all my instruments in my music room that I keep locked so I hate putting my axes back in the case every time I finished for the night. I know I'm asking a lot of questions and I apologize. I guess my excitement of finally owning a life long dream has over come me. |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 3397 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:53 pm: | |
The subject of guitar stands has been discussed several times in the past and can be quite an emotional topic. There are several members who absolutely do not use guitar stands. There are several who always leave their instruments in their cases, even between sets at gigs. There are several who use the hangers. And there are members who use various types of stands. |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 3398 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:08 pm: | |
Here is what I use. It's fairly stable and you can't accidentally tip the instrument off of the stand. |
bigredbass
Senior Member Username: bigredbass
Post Number: 655 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:42 pm: | |
I'm a setup NUT, but the reason I'm not too fond of wall hangers: I worked in music stores long enough to see guitars acquire a little finish stress (especially lacquer guitars, softer finish) at the bottom of the headstock where they rested on the wall hangers. I'm like Dave, I like the shorter stands. Don't seem to be near as easy to tip over. I used to have one of those Hamilton 'Hanger' stands and it would tip over if you looked at it funny! J o e y |
keith_h
Advanced Member Username: keith_h
Post Number: 359 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:04 am: | |
I use the same stand as Dave and found it to be very stable. I've found them at my local GC. Keith |
jazzyvee
Advanced Member Username: jazzyvee
Post Number: 373 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:27 am: | |
Like OlieOliver, I keep most of my guitars in cases in a locked room after I was burgled last year and through the grace of god no instruments were stolen. I have an acoustic and a Strat hanging on wall hangers and so far they have not suffered any damage to the finish of them. However I have noticed that the necks have moved which i attribute to the central heating and the higher temperature higher up on the wall than the temperature at seating position. When practicing I use a guitar stand which is a simple a-frame type which i find good for temporarilty holding the guitar in during breaks in my practice session. On gigs I do tend to keep my guitar in the case until I'm ready to play then as soon as I come off stage I put it back in the case. The main exceptions are when its a large venue and security is tight so no unauthorised persons can get to the stage area. The crucial thing to remember is. If you have the guitar on a stand on stage,( even at home)..... make sure you remove the guitar cable from the instrument and put it clear of the stand. The number of times I've seen stage hands and musicians trip over cables is far too many. The last thing you want is to see someone trip over the guitar cable plugged into your instrument and witness it go crashing to the floor. if you must use a stand, can I suggest , wait till the stage area has been completely set up first. Jazzyvee. |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 3403 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 12:45 pm: | |
I agree with Jazzyvee; I always remove the cable before I put the bass in its stand. |
olieoliver
Junior Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 42 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 12:52 pm: | |
I've agree. Most of my basses, including the MK have the input jack on side, and if I were to place it in the stand with the cord plugged in it would rest on the cords jack causing the guitars jack to become loose. You also save your battery when you unplug the cord |
kilowatt
Member Username: kilowatt
Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 3:01 pm: | |
I was looking for a new stand to use at shows, and I liked the idea of a locking bracket at the neck. I saw the same one Dave is using. Looks like this is the best stand option out there. I will have to make sure to disconnect the cable as this is probable the biggest cause of accidents. Thanks for the link Dave, now I'm sure this is the one I want for my new bass. Regards, Pete |
bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen
Post Number: 987 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 3:48 pm: | |
This may seem like a silly point to some but what about damage to the wall? My music room is in the house not a studio. Senior management would be pissed is I scuffed up her walls by hanging and removing basses from it. Like Olie, BTW nice photo on the profile page, I keep my instruments on stands rather than cases when at rest. The Alembic is on a stand by itself closest to my music stand and stool. The others are in a Warwick three guitar stand. After looking at Dave's link I think I like that one much better than what I use and the price is very nice as well. OK enough rambling. No more post-Malbec typing I promise. Sam |
keurosix
Junior Username: keurosix
Post Number: 40 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:33 pm: | |
Hello Olie, A warm welcome to the club. According to my guitar luthier, (Alas, my "Late" guitar Luthier) his professional opinion was that ALL guitars are happiest in their cases when not being played. This from a man who had a humidity controlled work shop complete with the hygrometer (I think that's what it was called) graphing a rotary humidity graph hanging on the wall, whilest chain smoking non-filter camels, and sucking down cokes and ruffles. I think it really was the camels that did him in, but the cokes helped too. He used that to de-rust metal parts! According to his theory, the case acts as a nice barrier to all sorts of airborne nasties and humidity swings that keep you from chasing your set up back and forth: minimizing truss rod tweaks, bridge nudges, corrosion, and dried-out fingerboards. I followed his advise and I see the benefit. Happy playin' Kris |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 3406 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:56 pm: | |
Kris makes a good point. My own observations showed that I was much more likely to practice if the bass was sitting in a stand than I was if the bass was in a case. Indeed, when I walk from the office to the kitchen, I frequently stop and pick a bass up out of its stand and play for a half hour. And when I'm watching the evening news, I frequently reach over and pick up a bass that's sitting right there by the chair. So, I leave my basses out because I found that doing so greatly increased the amount of time I practiced; and I really need to practice. But as Kris pointed out, there are significant disadvantages as well. People are different; some folks get their practice in without having to leave their basses out. But for me, at this point in time, having my bass sitting right there ready to play seems to be the way to go. |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 1067 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 6:40 pm: | |
I recently got a coffin case three guitar case/stand. It has handles on several sides and wheels. 3/4 of the front comes off in a panel. The case then acts as a stand. Very protective, very effective. The only downside that I've found is that it doesn't fit larger body guitars like my 335. Bill, tgo |
gare
Advanced Member Username: gare
Post Number: 351 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 6:18 am: | |
Like Sam, I also use a Warwick 3 guitar stand, very stable, tucks nicely into a corner etc. I usually keep my Excel, Spector, and acoustic guitar on it for easy access. I also keep them in gig bags on the stand. (keeps the cat from licking them, he's strange that way) Except for my Rick 4001, everything I've played over the past 20+ years has had active eq, so I got used to unplugging them when not playing to save the batteries, which is another good case for unplugging. Gary |
adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan
Post Number: 786 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 6:54 am: | |
We don't have too much room in the house, and a 5 year old who likes to strum the strings with sticky fingers. So yes, the basses are on wall hangers. And yes, the wife would have preferred not to have them hanging there. I have a low floor stand which is pretty solid (K&M brand) but it's pretty useless for my Epic, which needs one brace lower than the other. The bass will stay put as long as nobody goes near it, but that's about it. It's one similar to this, except the right-hand brace has an extension - which actually gets in the way if the cord is plugged into the Epic ...
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dean_m
Senior Member Username: dean_m
Post Number: 407 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 8:44 am: | |
Here's what I've always been told... or asked more so. Would you rather sit in a chair in the living room or be hung on the wall by your neck? LOL!!!! All in all I too have little hands around the house so keeping them up high is necessary. Peace, Dino |
olieoliver
Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 56 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 8:57 am: | |
I use the stands like adriaan does on gig's or at church. I have a WW Doplhin Pro that odesn't fit it though. I do like that coffin case Bill. Does it have wheels on it? |
palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic
Post Number: 2325 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:15 am: | |
Hey Paul the fake one (the artist formerly known as Dino) good to hear you. BTW: how are these little hands doing these days????? Paul TBO |
dean_m
Senior Member Username: dean_m
Post Number: 408 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:36 am: | |
My Brother Paul, I've been traveling like crazzzzy. Everything is just fantastic. I'm getting to spend some time with the family in the next week or so too. How have you been? Let's email so as to not tie up threads here. Peace, Dino (brother Paul the Fake One) |
keith_h
Advanced Member Username: keith_h
Post Number: 362 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 1:00 pm: | |
Hey Adriaan, Why not hang the kid on the wall and let the basses run free? LOL Keith (mine are all grown up) |
adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan
Post Number: 789 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:05 pm: | |
Keith - the kid's mom might object more to that than she does the wall hangers. But what are we talking about? I've got the 5 year old playing chess already, so he might be just smart enough to pick up bass. |
bassplayer2106
Member Username: bassplayer2106
Post Number: 71 Registered: 5-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:17 pm: | |
I've started to use wall hangers for my basses, except for the Status, (have to keep reminding myself not to try and hang it up), it gets them up off the floor and out of reach. I have my 5 year old nephew stay over quite often and he's taken a bit of a fancy to them, sticky fingers and strings don't go together well. He complains that I'm not sharing, when he's older he'll understand. |
wideload
Intermediate Member Username: wideload
Post Number: 101 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:54 pm: | |
In the house? Too many cats and dogs for a bass to survive in the wild. Cases are required (and must not be laying down, lest they becomed fur-covered). On stage? I use a tripod that leans back and hangs the bass by the neck (although not until dead!). Very stable, and I have never worried about anyone bothering my gear. I project the stock bassist attitude, I guess. They are all fairly certain they're not crazier than me! Larry |
palmann
Junior Username: palmann
Post Number: 21 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 4:12 pm: | |
Kevin, give him an Ibanez to play with. And enjoy all the sticky fingerprints on that bass, that are not on your alembic(s). :-) Gruesse, Pablo |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 1080 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 5:09 pm: | |
Olie: Wheels? This 50 (soon to be 51) year old back says YEAH!!!! It's really quite convenient. I usually bring two or three guitars to each gig anyway. This makes it easier than dealing with 3 cases. The wheels are truly a blessing and there are enough different handles on the case to make picking it up easy any way you want to. If only I could fit my Rickenbacker 360/12 into it. Instead I've been inspired to mod my Strat 12 (which does fit) with Alembic guts, so maybe the fact that the Ricky doesn't fit has a silver lining. Bill, tgo (Message edited by lbpesq on March 09, 2006) |
olieoliver
Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 58 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 6:37 pm: | |
I really like that case. Where did you get it? I am considering coming out of retirement (nothing too serious more for my enjoyment) and that case would really work out great for me. Do you know if they make one large enough for bass guitars? |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 1083 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:08 pm: | |
Olie: I haven't seen one for bass, but you can check with coffin case. I'm not home right now, so I can't measure it, but I know my strat XII fits in it, and the 12 string is enough longer than a standard strat that it won't fit in a standard Fender type case. I can measure it this weekend and post, if you'd like. I got it from samash.com and it cost about $189, IIRC. Bill, tgo |
olieoliver
Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 63 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:37 am: | |
Thanks Bill, No need to measure the case though, I went to Coffin cases' web site http://www.coffincase.com/products/ and sent them an email to get measurments. Thanks, again. |