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olieoliver
Junior
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 36
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:36 pm:   Edit Post

How does everyone feel about hanging your Alembic via the Crown with a wall guitar hanger or do you recommend a traditional stand? I keep all my instruments in my music room that I keep locked so I hate putting my axes back in the case every time I finished for the night. I know I'm asking a lot of questions and I apologize. I guess my excitement of finally owning a life long dream has over come me.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3397
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:53 pm:   Edit Post

The subject of guitar stands has been discussed several times in the past and can be quite an emotional topic. There are several members who absolutely do not use guitar stands. There are several who always leave their instruments in their cases, even between sets at gigs. There are several who use the hangers. And there are members who use various types of stands.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3398
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post

Here is what I use. It's fairly stable and you can't accidentally tip the instrument off of the stand.
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 655
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post

I'm a setup NUT, but the reason I'm not too fond of wall hangers: I worked in music stores long enough to see guitars acquire a little finish stress (especially lacquer guitars, softer finish) at the bottom of the headstock where they rested on the wall hangers.

I'm like Dave, I like the shorter stands. Don't seem to be near as easy to tip over. I used to have one of those Hamilton 'Hanger' stands and it would tip over if you looked at it funny!

J o e y
keith_h
Advanced Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 359
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:04 am:   Edit Post

I use the same stand as Dave and found it to be very stable. I've found them at my local GC.

Keith
jazzyvee
Advanced Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 373
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post

Like OlieOliver, I keep most of my guitars in cases in a locked room after I was burgled last year and through the grace of god no instruments were stolen.

I have an acoustic and a Strat hanging on wall hangers and so far they have not suffered any damage to the finish of them. However I have noticed that the necks have moved which i attribute to the central heating and the higher temperature higher up on the wall than the temperature at seating position.

When practicing I use a guitar stand which is a simple a-frame type which i find good for temporarilty holding the guitar in during breaks in my practice session.

On gigs I do tend to keep my guitar in the case until I'm ready to play then as soon as I come off stage I put it back in the case. The main exceptions are when its a large venue and security is tight so no unauthorised persons can get to the stage area.

The crucial thing to remember is. If you have the guitar on a stand on stage,( even at home)..... make sure you remove the guitar cable from the instrument and put it clear of the stand. The number of times I've seen stage hands and musicians trip over cables is far too many.

The last thing you want is to see someone trip over the guitar cable plugged into your instrument and witness it go crashing to the floor.

if you must use a stand, can I suggest , wait till the stage area has been completely set up first.
Jazzyvee.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3403
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post

I agree with Jazzyvee; I always remove the cable before I put the bass in its stand.
olieoliver
Junior
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 42
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post

I've agree. Most of my basses, including the MK have the input jack on side, and if I were to place it in the stand with the cord plugged in it would rest on the cords jack causing the guitars jack to become loose. You also save your battery when you unplug the cord
kilowatt
Member
Username: kilowatt

Post Number: 54
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post

I was looking for a new stand to use at shows, and I liked the idea of a locking bracket at the neck. I saw the same one Dave is using. Looks like this is the best stand option out there. I will have to make sure to disconnect the cable as this is probable the biggest cause of accidents. Thanks for the link Dave, now I'm sure this is the one I want for my new bass.

Regards,
Pete
bracheen
Senior Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 987
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post

This may seem like a silly point to some but what about damage to the wall? My music room is in the house not a studio. Senior management would be pissed is I scuffed up her walls by hanging and removing basses from it. Like Olie, BTW nice photo on the profile page, I keep my instruments on stands rather than cases when at rest. The Alembic is on a stand by itself closest to my music stand and stool. The others are in a Warwick three guitar stand. After looking at Dave's link I think I like that one much better than what I use and the price is very nice as well.
OK enough rambling. No more post-Malbec typing I promise.

Sam
keurosix
Junior
Username: keurosix

Post Number: 40
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:33 pm:   Edit Post

Hello Olie,
A warm welcome to the club. According to my guitar luthier, (Alas, my "Late" guitar Luthier) his professional opinion was that ALL guitars are happiest in their cases when not being played. This from a man who had a humidity controlled work shop complete with the hygrometer (I think that's what it was called) graphing a rotary humidity graph hanging on the wall, whilest chain smoking non-filter camels, and sucking down cokes and ruffles. I think it really was the camels that did him in, but the cokes helped too. He used that to de-rust metal parts! According to his theory, the case acts as a nice barrier to all sorts of airborne nasties and humidity swings that keep you from chasing your set up back and forth: minimizing truss rod tweaks, bridge nudges, corrosion, and dried-out fingerboards. I followed his advise and I see the benefit.
Happy playin'
Kris
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 3406
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:56 pm:   Edit Post

Kris makes a good point. My own observations showed that I was much more likely to practice if the bass was sitting in a stand than I was if the bass was in a case. Indeed, when I walk from the office to the kitchen, I frequently stop and pick a bass up out of its stand and play for a half hour. And when I'm watching the evening news, I frequently reach over and pick up a bass that's sitting right there by the chair. So, I leave my basses out because I found that doing so greatly increased the amount of time I practiced; and I really need to practice. But as Kris pointed out, there are significant disadvantages as well. People are different; some folks get their practice in without having to leave their basses out. But for me, at this point in time, having my bass sitting right there ready to play seems to be the way to go.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 1067
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post

I recently got a coffin case three guitar case/stand. It has handles on several sides and wheels. 3/4 of the front comes off in a panel. The case then acts as a stand. Very protective, very effective. The only downside that I've found is that it doesn't fit larger body guitars like my 335.



Bill, tgo
gare
Advanced Member
Username: gare

Post Number: 351
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 6:18 am:   Edit Post

Like Sam, I also use a Warwick 3 guitar stand, very stable, tucks nicely into a corner etc. I usually keep my Excel, Spector, and acoustic guitar on it for easy access. I also keep them in gig bags on the stand. (keeps the cat from licking them, he's strange that way)
Except for my Rick 4001, everything I've played over the past 20+ years has had active eq, so I got used to unplugging them when not playing to save the batteries, which is another good case for unplugging.

Gary
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 786
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 6:54 am:   Edit Post

We don't have too much room in the house, and a 5 year old who likes to strum the strings with sticky fingers. So yes, the basses are on wall hangers.

And yes, the wife would have preferred not to have them hanging there.

I have a low floor stand which is pretty solid (K&M brand) but it's pretty useless for my Epic, which needs one brace lower than the other. The bass will stay put as long as nobody goes near it, but that's about it. It's one similar to this, except the right-hand brace has an extension - which actually gets in the way if the cord is plugged into the Epic ...
KM stand
dean_m
Senior Member
Username: dean_m

Post Number: 407
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 8:44 am:   Edit Post

Here's what I've always been told... or asked more so.

Would you rather sit in a chair in the living room or be hung on the wall by your neck? LOL!!!!

All in all I too have little hands around the house so keeping them up high is necessary.

Peace,
Dino
olieoliver
Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 56
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 8:57 am:   Edit Post

I use the stands like adriaan does on gig's or at church. I have a WW Doplhin Pro that odesn't fit it though. I do like that coffin case Bill. Does it have wheels on it?
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 2325
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post

Hey Paul the fake one (the artist formerly known as Dino)

good to hear you.
BTW: how are these little hands doing these days?????

Paul TBO
dean_m
Senior Member
Username: dean_m

Post Number: 408
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post

My Brother Paul,
I've been traveling like crazzzzy. Everything is just fantastic. I'm getting to spend some time with the family in the next week or so too.
How have you been? Let's email so as to not tie up threads here.

Peace,
Dino (brother Paul the Fake One)
keith_h
Advanced Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 362
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 1:00 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Adriaan, Why not hang the kid on the wall and let the basses run free? LOL

Keith
(mine are all grown up)
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 789
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post

Keith - the kid's mom might object more to that than she does the wall hangers. But what are we talking about? I've got the 5 year old playing chess already, so he might be just smart enough to pick up bass.
bassplayer2106
Member
Username: bassplayer2106

Post Number: 71
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post

I've started to use wall hangers for my basses, except for the Status, (have to keep reminding myself not to try and hang it up), it gets them up off the floor and out of reach.
I have my 5 year old nephew stay over quite often and he's taken a bit of a fancy to them, sticky fingers and strings don't go together well.
He complains that I'm not sharing, when he's older he'll understand.
wideload
Intermediate Member
Username: wideload

Post Number: 101
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:54 pm:   Edit Post

In the house? Too many cats and dogs for a bass to survive in the wild. Cases are required (and must not be laying down, lest they becomed fur-covered). On stage? I use a tripod that leans back and hangs the bass by the neck (although not until dead!). Very stable, and I have never worried about anyone bothering my gear. I project the stock bassist attitude, I guess. They are all fairly certain they're not crazier than me!

Larry
palmann
Junior
Username: palmann

Post Number: 21
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 4:12 pm:   Edit Post

Kevin,

give him an Ibanez to play with. And enjoy all the sticky fingerprints on that bass, that are not on your alembic(s). :-)

Gruesse, Pablo
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 1080
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post

Olie:

Wheels? This 50 (soon to be 51) year old back says YEAH!!!! It's really quite convenient. I usually bring two or three guitars to each gig anyway. This makes it easier than dealing with 3 cases. The wheels are truly a blessing and there are enough different handles on the case to make picking it up easy any way you want to. If only I could fit my Rickenbacker 360/12 into it. Instead I've been inspired to mod my Strat 12 (which does fit) with Alembic guts, so maybe the fact that the Ricky doesn't fit has a silver lining.

Bill, tgo

(Message edited by lbpesq on March 09, 2006)
olieoliver
Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 58
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post

I really like that case. Where did you get it?
I am considering coming out of retirement (nothing too serious more for my enjoyment) and that case would really work out great for me. Do you know if they make one large enough for bass guitars?
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 1083
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post

Olie:

I haven't seen one for bass, but you can check with coffin case. I'm not home right now, so I can't measure it, but I know my strat XII fits in it, and the 12 string is enough longer than a standard strat that it won't fit in a standard Fender type case. I can measure it this weekend and post, if you'd like. I got it from samash.com and it cost about $189, IIRC.

Bill, tgo
olieoliver
Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 63
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:37 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Bill,
No need to measure the case though, I went to Coffin cases' web site http://www.coffincase.com/products/
and sent them an email to get measurments.
Thanks, again.

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