| Author | Message | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 207 Registered: 3-2006 |
Ok, enough talking now, there it is, download/unpack and check it out! The photo should/could be one of Alembic instrument used for the track, and one of your band or yourself on an other track. The annotation should/could explain briefly about your Alembic instruments, and on an other track about your band or yourself... The "info" link below the picture, could have one track go to the Alembic website, and one track on your website, or wherever is good... (nothing illegal though!) Common, talk to me now! http://www.topfloormix.com/alembic.swf.zip Thanks, LG PS: the first two tracks are from the baddest boy on this forum... Who could that be? | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 209 Registered: 3-2006 |
Here is my "story"; who cares wether you can play good or not? Music is not about how fast you can go, or how crazy you can do it, or how technical you are... Music is about sharing a bit of yourself with the world, it's a universal language, so if you got yourself a $20000 custom and are embarrassed to share because you cannot play like Stanley Clarke or Jaco Pastorius... don't worry, everyone has got a strength and a weakness, and that's life. If you are late for work and need to run, for instance, are you gonna ask yourself: "I shouldn't run because I cannot run as fast as Carl Lewis, therefore I am embarrassed to run, and I shall walk and be late for work... and get penalized maybe..." Same goes for the rest, so we want to hear things, that accompany those nice pictures you have out there... And don't forget, by doing so, we are helping Alembic directly, so potential customers and musicians can check it out properly. Alembic has help me get my project going in right direction, so I want to help back... PS: If you can't play, at least make it sound nice  LOL Thanks, LG (Message edited by LG71 on November 06, 2006) Few mistakes, as usual... (Message edited by LG71 on November 06, 2006) | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 211 Registered: 3-2006 |
If you are having difficulties with the previous link, got to the following page and PC/right click + download - Mac/Ctrl click + download, make sure you DO NOT DO a single/simple click (for a couple of reason, 1) it would open in full, 2) you could get some warning message due to new implementations in browsers...) Basically, it's a mini self contained Flash player, you can then launch it directly from you computer, as long as you are connected to the internet... It will update the "growing" playlist (as long as people get involved...) http://www.topfloormix.com/a_player.htm | ||
| hieronymous
Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 81 Registered: 1-2005 |
Hey lg71, I just commented in the other thread. No offense, but I don't particularly want to download a player. I don't know why, it's just that I see the link, and I really hesitate to download it into my computer. Personally, I think that people should host their own stuff and then link to it. It took me a long time to figure out, but it is doable. I sometimes wonder why more people don't record their instruments on these forums (not just the Alembic one), but I think the main reason is that it's a lot of work and requires a certain amount of equipment and dedication to figuring it out. I don't mean to poo-poo your project though! I appreciate that you're trying to motivate us! | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 1379 Registered: 3-2004 |
I would just say that this thread, as well as some others put here, belong in the Miscellaneous area. I'll also echo that I favor individuals arranging for the hosting of their own clips. -bob | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 214 Registered: 3-2006 |
That's fine, everyone is free. Let's hope some of us participate in this easy straight forward project. For your interested and peace of mine, the player is ULTRA LIGHT only few KBs... You are not installing anything by downloading it, and doesn't read any info from your computer either, all it does, is read a playlist, and make it available on the player itself, you are not downloading anything, it's 100% safe. | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 215 Registered: 3-2006 |
May I ask you what are you worry about? Would you react in the same way if this player was hosted by Alembic, or Dave? I don't have a problem with that. I just wanted to demonstrate and show something, useful, innovative and interesting. There are people that always come with big fancy talk, but they never show you anything, I just don't want to be one of them, so I mentioned, I show it, if you don't like it, it's a shame, because it a nice opportunity for all of us. Never mind, if Mica doesn't approve, it won't happen anyway. I never said I wanted to host the player, this is just a demonstration. I can see it's not very well perceived or appreciated. I am fine with that. Thanks, LG | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 216 Registered: 3-2006 |
Just a little extra note, in case someone misunderstand the way this player work again: It DOES NOT host anything at all, NO MP3s, NO PHOTOS, musicians willing to participate would host their own files, on their own website, if they don't have a website, they can ask a friend they trust to do so. The player itself need to be hosted by someone who can maintain the playlist properly, and for example, if you deleted a song or a photo from your hosting website, it wouldn't appear anymore on the player. I wasn't planning on hosting your music on my website in any way, not that I don't like you, but simply because I have a limited bandwidth every month. So, there you go, you would host your own stuff, the player is just like a radio, exactly the same as when you guys point to video from yourtube.com, as simple as that! I would have greatly appreciated, if you asked me how it worked before assuming things that are incorrect, again I am fine with that. I am used to it. I hope that no-one is confused or worry, look at this more like a listing player, that's all. As far as I am aware, people got to things like Myspace and bla bla bla... to get heard and noticed, period. Many musicians "struggles" to get noticed, and I haven't met many musicians who really want to play for themselves, and be heard by no-one else. But I am sure there are some out there... A last word, this idea was to benefit everyone, including Alembic, Ron, Mica, Valentino and the complete family. | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 232 Registered: 3-2006 |
For the members who may be wondering what the player looks like (showing empty listing/playlist):  This is the exact dimension in pixels, it can list 1000s of tracks, can also be emailed to friends, relatives, customers... It can work on its own or can be embedded on a web-page, "mini" or fully expanded up to the size of the browser... Each track listed can have; a photo, a brief scrolling text/annotation + link to a website... Easy to maintain (only 1 person is required/needed to update the playlist), pretty flexible, small... but BIG! I'll wait 'til my Birthday - then, will terminate the offer, for good. | ||
| haddimudd
Intermediate Member Username: haddimudd Post Number: 158 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hey LG, I like your project. I have nothing to post yet though and I can't download the player at the moment either as I am on tour so to speak and don't have my own computer with me. But I will take a look at it when I get back home. Hartmut | ||
| jsaylor
New Username: jsaylor Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2006 |
LG, After reading that, I can't agree with you more. Isnt music just about playing something you like? I would like to hear how an Alembic sounds. Does anyone have any recording without this player, like on youtube or anything? Ive watched this one british guy try to beat the London clock, but didn't really hear too much of its tone since he was going so fast. The speed he was going it sounded just like any other bass. (Message edited by jsaylor on November 10, 2006) | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 234 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hi Hartmut, Thanks, I've just added the first volunteer (Chris aka "Bumhucker" - thanks a lot Chris!), looking forward to get some of yours listed! ----------- Jsaylor, Thanks for your support. Have you heard the tracks on the player? This would be a first step... Otherwise, go on youtube.com and type in Stanley Clarke, he is The Alembic "Boss" player... The "fast guy" is Mark King from Level 42, an other Boss... Likewise, do a search under those names, although he doesn't always play Alembic. If you like him/them I'd recommend the Album called "Level 42" from 1981... There are other Alembic players out there of course, check the relevant section on this forum. HTH ----------- In case there are other members interested, all I need from you is a URL/link to one or two of your MP3(s), playing your Alembic(s)... This is the MINIMUM requirement, REALLY! That's all... But: - You can make it better/nicer by providing a URL to a photo(s) of the bass(es), which has to be 130/130 pixels in.jpg format (try optimizing/saving it under/max 75% quality), and maybe an other photo of you or your band if you link to a couple of tracks... - You can also provide a link/URL under the "info" button, for instance, if you have two tracks, one could go to your website, and the other one to the Alembic website... - A short phrase/annotation, with your name/band/track name... and what Alembic wood/electronics were used for the track(s). It would be nice to have this project working/moving in the right direction, especially as Christmas is approaching... I have updated the download page: "Over here" please... (Message edited by LG71 on November 10, 2006) | ||
| jsaylor
New Username: jsaylor Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi LG, I got it working. What do you mean by "Boss" player? Do you mean like hes the most infamous Alembic player? I typed him in on youtube, and boy, I think I have a new favrote bassist. Thanks again, Jordan | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 239 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hi Jordan, I meant Bass + Boss ;) He is a Bad Boy, the King! Not infamous, but Super duper famous... | ||
| oujeebass
Member Username: oujeebass Post Number: 85 Registered: 10-2002 |
Here is my bands myspace with a couple of tunes and videos of me playing my Epic http://www.myspace.com/dirtynastyblues | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 240 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hi, Oujeebass Thanks, great;) Would you like to be listed on the player then? If so, we need URL(s) to your MP3(s), NO other format - my Space will NOT work, BUT: If we list one of your track(s), the "info" button (below the picture, if you have one) can always link to your band on Myspace, no problem... Remember, tracks must have 1 Alembic instrument playing at least, hence the name of the player: "Alembic Media Player" project... Thanks, LG | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 256 Registered: 3-2006 |
Just a quick word to say that the player is not available for download anymore, and this project will never see the light... Best regards, LG | ||
| hieronymous
Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 89 Registered: 1-2005 |
LG, despite the fact that I was one of those that wasn't behind your player, I am sorry that it didn't work out and I really do appreciate the effort you were willing to put in. However, at this point I still think that A) the majority of people won't do it if it involves more than one step, and B) very few people will comment anyway. Maybe in another year or so, as more and more people record on their computers, your player will come into vogue! | ||
| oujeebass
Member Username: oujeebass Post Number: 88 Registered: 10-2002 |
I wanted to participate,but it didn't seem easy enough to work for most. I would suggest a myspace account be setup and material could be rotated,or something along those lines. | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 259 Registered: 3-2006 |
To all the members, It's a shame that the only people who criticized the idea hadn't actually contacted me to be listed on the player, so could not know how easy or difficult it was, and by the same token put off members who might have been interested. If you can post on this forum or maintain a Myspace account, you can probably launch my player on your desktop. But it doesn't matter anymore - the offer is closed now. hieronymous the player did not involve many steps, didn't need login details or password either. It only needed to be downloaded once, not twice - and the content/playlist updated automatically, as long as "courageous" volunteers agreed to be listed, by providing urls to tracks, simple... You said that you didn't want to download a/the player, so how can you possibly comment beyond that? I will never understand how people can have such a strong opinion and make comments on things they haven' t tried. oujeebass you didn't reply to my invitation to participate, and as far as "it didn't seem to work for most..." - you were probably misled by others. I only heard from one member (who got it up and running in no time) and incidentally he was the only one who contributed. Best regards, LG | ||
| oujeebass
Member Username: oujeebass Post Number: 89 Registered: 10-2002 |
I had the URLs and everything ready to go,but I thought the idea was nixed already. I am still game,And I'll be the 1st one to voluteer if you wanna go with it again. Here are my URLs: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/superhype/images/dnbbc.mp3 http://www.angelfire.com/ga/superhype/images/dnbyggi.mp3 http://www.angelfire.com/ga/superhype/images/bf1.mp3 | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 260 Registered: 3-2006 |
Oujeebass, did you download the player when it was still available? (Message edited by LG71 on November 21, 2006) | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 896 Registered: 2-2006 |
LG, I downloaded the player and found it quick and easy to use. And I am not a computer wiz by any means. I just don't have anything recorded at the moment that was worth adding. I for one think it is a great idea and hope you reconcider making it available again. | ||
| haddimudd
Intermediate Member Username: haddimudd Post Number: 170 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hey LG, I downloaded your player when I stopped by at my home again. I really liked your concept from the beginning. I don't have anything to post yet either, but due to this player project I feel more of an itch to sit down and do some recordings. It is something I always had in mind but your project is one more good reason. Unfortunately though I am still working away from my home at the moment and wouldn't be able to record anything before I am back for long. Anyway, if your project would still be around once I am back I'd be happy to give it a shot. In my opinion you shouldn't feel discouraged at this point. If you'd give the project more time I am sure it will grow, slowly at the beginning maybe but faster and bigger once more people have contributed. And besides, there are always people who like an idea and others who don't. I personally dislike BMW cars, but would you think they'd have stopped producing them because of that? You have a good project going! Hartmut (Message edited by haddimudd on November 22, 2006) | ||
| keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin Post Number: 961 Registered: 12-2002 |
LG71 as soon as i get something worthwile recorded i'd love to try your concept aswell ,i think it's a brilliant idea!....it's a cool way for us lembic-addicts to share each others addiction to that sound. | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 261 Registered: 3-2006 |
- Oujeebass, thanks for the tracks. The reason I asked you the above question, is to show you some "magic"... i.e; if you already downloaded the player, just launch it again and see what happen! - Olieoliver, thanks for your support and comments. I heard a couple of your tracks on this forum, and I really think that it sounds great! That's plenty enough to me, and I am sure to most members too...Why don't you get those listed? - Haddimudd, thanks for you kind words too. I don't like BMW either, it has to be the Porsche 911 vintage (not the newer models) - nothing less/more;) Again, we don't really need the best of the best, as long as we can hear something, that's what count! Let's get started... - Keavin, thanks to you too. That's right, this project is to benefit everyone, members, friends, potential customers... and the Alembic family + staff, after all, they want to hear what we come up with, don't they? I'd like to list + hear Mica and Valentino for instance. And when things get going, we will invite Mr Clarke himself! He won't refuse, he is a Sagittarius like me... Well, let's keep it "underground" for now, until this project gets the attention it deserves i.e: For now, please email me the URL(s) to your MP3(s) directly (NOT on the forum), and I will send you back the player, in case you haven't downloaded it already. Many regards, LG PS: to the members who would like to get a copy of the player - without contributing, no problem at all, just send me an email, I'll send it to you. (Message edited by LG71 on November 22, 2006) | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 898 Registered: 2-2006 |
LG, most of my stuf is in WMA format. But I'll find some of the better tracks and convert them to MP3 then email the link to you. I'll need to reinstall the player I deleted it when you said the project was over. Could you email it to me. Thanks | ||
| keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin Post Number: 962 Registered: 12-2002 |
yeah send it this way too LG!....to keavin at alembicbassplayer@sbcglobal.net | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 262 Registered: 3-2006 |
Check out your mail boxes, should be there any minute! Olie, I couldn't see an email address on your profile, so I followed the URL and got something I think... | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 900 Registered: 2-2006 |
Got it. That's my old email address on the web site. My new one, for future reference, dabassplayer@tx.rr.com | ||
| keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin Post Number: 965 Registered: 12-2002 |
got it.........Cool! | ||
| jsaylor
Junior Username: jsaylor Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2006 |
LG, Funny how this is now kicking off now after it was aborted. Are there anymore added now? I uninstalled the player after you said it was done, so will you put it back up? -Jordan | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 265 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hi Jordan, yes, that was the old classic trick I did, I saw it in a movie with Robert De Niro, it always work! I am joking of course lol BTW: this player doesn't "install" at all, it's simply a file that you can launch anywhere on your computer. I just wanted to clarify, in case there are members out there, that think that the player must be installed - it doesn't. It's just a 70kb .swf (flash) file, nothing else. Open it and close it, simple. Yes, there are more tracks now, thanks to the contributing members. I am sending it to you via email right now (got the one from your profile). Well, members who want to be listed need to send me an email with URL(s) anyway, so if they don't have the player they can request it. As for members who don't want or cannot be listed for some reason, they can still request a copy and enjoy listening, no problem. | ||
| jsaylor
Junior Username: jsaylor Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi LG, Haha. Yes I know it doesn't install, but I couldn't think of another word to describe it. Anyway thanks again. I got the email. Now my own computer teases me :p. One of these days...Untill then, I've got my trusty Thunderbird . Thanks again -Jordan | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 268 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hi Jordan, That's why I was saying to you that it wasn't luck but choice... i.e; you have a Gibson that cost around $2K you said, well I never had an instrument in my life that cost that much you see. In fact, for much less than $2K, I bought three (3X) Aria SBs (and NOT all at once, far from it), that's right...Then, I looked for second Alembic parts and upgraded two Arias, and it didn't happen overnight though, I had to sell other stuff to raise money, then "save/borrow" money, then wait, hunt, and wait... and I still owe money, it took a while, patience, decisions and choice... So, you have many options available to you; especially you are lucky to be in the US, because Alembics are much more affordable there. Then you always have the option to sell or trade in your Gibson... And also, your Gibson will probably be much more valuable then any of my "Arialembics" in the second hand market... Meaning that my upgraded Aria, are STILL Aria, and they are not valuable, even with the Alembic parts, because they are Not Alembics, they are Aria. But you know what? To me it doesn't matter, because I did it for the sound, NOT for the VALUE. I would say that Alembics, are a much superior instruments, for Slap, Solo and high definition, definitely. While I still prefer my SB700 for other things... Personally I am not stubborn, but open minded and versatile, when it comes down to X vs Y... | ||
| jsaylor
Junior Username: jsaylor Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi LG, I said under $2000. It was actually $1150 because its a studio (set neck instead of neck through). Im not worried about value, because to me it too is all about the sound. However you may not know, Gibson basses have horrible resell prices. Alot of people just don't like them, but it appealed to me for its dark tone. I heard somewhere that Gibson only makes 10 basses a month (good quality control?), so the demand isn't really there, much less used. But hopefully I get lucky and find a good Alembic for sale somewhere where the person doesn't know what it is so I can get it for cheep. Happy Thanksgiving, -Jordan | ||
| lg71
Advanced Member Username: lg71 Post Number: 269 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hi Jordan, Is it Thanksgiving day in the States, great, thanks, same to everyone then... Well, under $2K, yes you said that... but, you had me laugh man, "just above $1K" would have been more accurate and appropriate I think? Where you embarrassed or something? LOL Please don't That's right, I don't know much about Gibson and their retail value, and BTW, there are cheaper Alembic out there that go around $1K, on ebay for instance... But you know what, let me know if you come across someone who sells an Alembic and doesn't know what it is! Although it's more likely to happen in a pawn shop, as some members got some great deals, maybe have a look around. Here in the UK/London, there aren't many Pawn shop, there is a chain called "Cash Converters", but these guys usually charge more than the retail value!!! LOL | ||
| jsaylor
Junior Username: jsaylor Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi LG, I guess above $1000 would be more accurate, but then again, its the best bass I've played for under $2000. No embarrassment. Yeah America is full of pawn shops. Im gonna have to go start looking around them for Alembics. Most people around here don't know what they are so maybe I'll get lucky and someone will think their some cheap asian company. -Jordan |
