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ubado
Junior
Username: ubado

Post Number: 32
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 7:48 am:   Edit Post

I got a 93' Epic and for the life of me I can seem to understand how it is attached. Where do they hide these darn bolts? :p

I'm not looking to take the neck off... just wondering.
the_mule
Senior Member
Username: the_mule

Post Number: 688
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 8:15 am:   Edit Post

No bolts, 'just' glue. You can take a look in the Factory To Customer section, and search for one of the custom Orions.
I'm sure there's some pictures that answer your question.

Wilfred
ubado
Junior
Username: ubado

Post Number: 34
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post

Oh! Now it all comes together. That's so cool...

It's basically a thru-set neck (not quite a thru-body, but not exactly a set neck, since the neck is glued... becomming apart of the body too).
So, instead of gluing wings... the neck is glued.... clever. :-)
hieronymous
Advanced Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 227
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post

A lot of the old Gibsons were set-necks. My Guild Starfire bass is set-neck too. Fenders are kind of the classic bolt-on, and Rickenbackers were early neck-throughs (though there are some set-neck Ricks like the 70's single-coil 4000 model as opposed to the standard 4001 & 4003 which are neck-through. And actually, now that I think about it, the classic Rickenbacker double-neck 4080 was bolt-on).
byoung
Senior Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 799
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post

Chaz,

I think you're mixing up set-neck and bolt-on. Bolt on == bolts, set-neck = glue.

Bradley
ubado
Junior
Username: ubado

Post Number: 35
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 2:07 pm:   Edit Post

I've heard bolt on's described as "set neck" before, but...Yea... perhaps your right. :-)
terryc
Advanced Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 317
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 3:44 am:   Edit Post

Is there a dovetail or locking joint to make it more secure rather than a straight cut pocket(as in fender bolt on).
I envisage a 'folding ' of the neck if the glue failed when it was strung up.
From a carpentry point of view and dovetail/scarf/mortise with glue is very strong.
Cannot see evidence on one of the custom Orions on the Factory to Customer site
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 889
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post

From looking at my Orions it appears to be a straight neck pocket. Mica has made comments in the past that with the glue they use the glued joint is stronger than the wood it is holding.

Keith
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5618
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 5:49 pm:   Edit Post

The pictures I've noticed in the FTC threads suggest it's just a straight cut pocket.
0vid
Intermediate Member
Username: 0vid

Post Number: 101
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 3:27 pm:   Edit Post

"I've heard bolt on's described as "set neck" before, but...Yea... perhaps your right. "

The industry tends to refer to screwed on necks as "bolt on", though technically speaking there are no bolts but screws. Mostly, the screw oon to the body. There are companies and luthiers who use a threaded insert and those tend to use socket head screws.

The term 'set neck' probably comes from the notion that the glue has 'set'.

I have never heard any one refer to a 'bolt on" as a 'set' neck.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1449
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 7:57 am:   Edit Post

Raymond. Strictly speaking, the fasteners we all refer to as bolts are in fact 'machine screws'. Bolts either have a hex head or a plain head with a squared off neck that fits into a square hole in the fitting - typically a gate hinge.

I have also never heard anyone refer to a bolt on neck as a set neck. (apart from Chaz who started this thread).

Graeme

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