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glocke
Advanced Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 313
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 5:51 pm:   Edit Post

I'm getting a distorted signal on my scd when I play it hard.
I've ruled out all other equipment problems. Any ideas what this could be?
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6172
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 6:19 pm:   Edit Post

Sometimes the output of an Alembic's preamp will overdrive the preamp section of the amp it's plugged in to. Try opening up the control cavity and turning down the two trim pots (one for each pickup). This won't change the tone of the bass, but will reduce the amount of signal going to your amp.

Some amps have a second input specifically for active basses that pad the input signal; if your amp has such an input, you might try that as well.

I'm also wondering if it might be a sign that the battery is starting to get weak. Might try a fresh battery.

And of course you might try the usual suspects for signal path problems - cables.
glocke
Advanced Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 314
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 8:33 pm:   Edit Post

thanks dave, but I've tried all the usual suspects (batteries, cables, different amps, etc) . Not sure what to do next.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6174
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 9:09 pm:   Edit Post

Pan all the way to the neck and then all the way to the bridge to see if the problem is isolated to one pickup circuit.
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1093
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 2:26 am:   Edit Post

I've heard people have problems like that on the forum before and If I'm not mistaken they were advised that the volume, pan and filter pots can be cleaned turning them back and forth quickly a about thirty times. You may wanna try that and if that is the problem that may be clear it up but if not at least you've given them a clean in the process.

I'm sure you have checked this out but are you sure it's not low action buzz?

I had that on my SC a few years ago but it was only around the 3rd fret on the G string. I can't recall if I did anything about it apart from play lighter. I do like a low action so that when I do play hard i get a nice edge to the sound but the problem is not there now. But then I've messed with the action a bit since then.


Jazzyvee
glocke
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Username: glocke

Post Number: 315
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 6:08 am:   Edit Post

Nope, its not low action buzz, as an electircal engineering/drummer friend puts it "I am getting an incomplete waveform"..

I tried panning between the pickups, and the problem seems to be more pronounced with the bridge pickup dialed in. The problem is less, and even non-existent with the neck pickup dialed in. Futhermore, it is intermittent. I spent 10 minutes last night warming up, playing with different levels of attack, and for the first 5 minutes everything was fine, than the problem started. The problem lasted almost all night, than went away after about two hours.....

AlI tried jazzys suggestion about cleaning the pots, but the problem is still there.. Im starting to feel like a trip back to the factory might be in order. Im kind of hesitant to do this since it would mean at least a month without my bass (1 week shipping from the philly area, I imagine at leat two weeks at alembic, than 1 week shipping back). I think I know what the answer to this is already, but do you guys think I could trust this to a local guy ????

(Message edited by glocke on February 09, 2008)
glocke
Advanced Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 317
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post

problem solved, and I feel pretty stupid....lol..

I assumed that the 3 batteries in the battery cavity controlled the pickups, and the single battery in the control cavity controlled the LED's...wrong on that one. Replaced the single battery in the control cavity and all is good....
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6177
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

Congrats!!!
kilowatt
Member
Username: kilowatt

Post Number: 78
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post

Don't feel too stupid, I thought that I had blown a speaker in one of my cabinets when I heard a terrible distortion. Turned out to be the same problem, a low battery level in my Modulus. I was glad , but I still felt stupid!


Regards,
Pete
georgie_boy
Advanced Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 393
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 1:57 am:   Edit Post

Had the same problem with my Curbow bass and my Fender M80.
I thought it was an amp or speaker failure, but it was just the battery!
Phew!!
G
hankster
Intermediate Member
Username: hankster

Post Number: 160
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 5:52 am:   Edit Post

Sounds like we've all been through this. It has finally happened to me enough times that I no longer break into a sweat and start worrying about expensive equipment repair when it happens, I just sigh, pull out the screwdriver and a battery and all is well. Used to happen with my Music Man with some frequency, but just far enough apart that I would forget and panic.

Rick
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 2935
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post

I bought a cheap little battery tester at Radio SHack - under $10. It tests everything: AAA to D and 9v. It's small and always lives in my bag-o-stuff that ALWAYS accompanies me everywhere I play. Any problems, first thing I do is test the battery. I also test all "new" batteries before installation. I've been known to absent-mindedly put an old battery back in the bag and then try and use it again. This is a cheap and quick precaution and is extremely effective in preventing the "DOH's"!!!.

Bill, tgo
hankster
Intermediate Member
Username: hankster

Post Number: 161
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post

Good points, Bill. The other comment I would make is that I have learned the hard way not to buy batteries from the corner market closest to the gig at the last minute - there are, oddly enough, a ton of counterfeit name-brand batteries out there, and they last about fifteen minutes in a power hungry effect box. I now buy batteries only from decent hardware stores or music stores, and like you, make sure there are fresh, real ones in my gig bag all the time.

Rick
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 2942
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post

Consumer Reports tested batteries and found the Costco house brand among the best ... and cheapest!

Bill, tgo
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 446
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 2:21 am:   Edit Post

I guess we all forget about that little power pack as it it out of sight.
Same happened to my son who inherited my alembic powered Squier Precision..ranting on about the amp being distorted etc. 'Put a new battery in'
Problem sorted.
I have read that 7000 hours is about the norm for a PP3 in most Alembic basses, depends if you leave you bass plugged in on the guitar stand in between sets, I always unplug..think about old non DC powered pedals!

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