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hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 256
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post

What a treat to see and listen to George Clinton's Funk-a-delics jammin hard with Alembic basses and Alembic lead guitars on the "cosmic-slop" jam.

Lead Guitarist, Michael Hampton kills with one of the best electric lead solos P-Funk ever did (next to knee-deep of course) 1970's video.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ril94tt0YGA&hl=en
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 290
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:19 pm:   Edit Post

have you heard any 'nu sound express ltd.'?
...while we are warpin' back to the 70's...

I had a great conversation with a member of the band today on the phone.I haven't heard them so I put a bid on an old 45.

thanks for the link...funk a delic is soooo coool.
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 257
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:26 pm:   Edit Post

One other thing, about the importants of this old video... toward the end of the jam, the Gerry Shider (playing the strat) jumps in out of nowhere, and starts a solo with his strat; then all of a sudden, Michael Hampton re-enters with his Alembic lead guitar, and they duel it out (Alembic vs Strat) style.

Soon Boogie Mosson (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame'er) joins in and "double teams" against Gary. Thus "Two Alembics, against one strat." That was a trip!

I never seen anything like this, where you get to hear and see, both bass and guitars pumping the funk in a "threesome". That was wild, only George Clinton could pull off something so great :-)
glocke
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Username: glocke

Post Number: 355
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 5:06 am:   Edit Post

I dont own any George Clinton/funkadelic stuff. Any recomendations ?
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 291
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 6:22 am:   Edit Post

Free Your Mind And Your Ass Will Follow,
Maggot brain,
Tales Of Kidd Funkadelic,
...and the rest will follow if ya dig it.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3030
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 7:41 am:   Edit Post

Cool video. Watching it made me realize that there is one area in which a Strat beats an Alembic - it's easier to tell which pickup a Strat player is using, but that's about it. By the way, that's no ordinary Strat the guy's playing. It appears to have humbuckers in the bridge and middle positions. And you'll never play a Strat right until you do it wearing wings and a diaper! (I hope he got paid well!) lol

Bill, tgo
richbass939
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Username: richbass939

Post Number: 921
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 9:59 am:   Edit Post

Clinton's bands were the coolest in concert. I saw them about a dozen years ago in a small venue. There were about 15 people onstage. Diaper dude started out with a black leather jacket which he chucked after a few songs. One guy was wearing a white wedding dress. Clinton wore a robe made out of a bedsheet with the genie from Aladdin on it.
Visually it was a great show. The sound was really disappointing, though. The mids were largely missing. You could see people playing all these parts that you couldn't hear at all.
I would love to see them again sometime.
Rich
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 258
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post

What's really cool about The Funk-A-Delics, is they had a rock edge mixed with soul; and Alembics were at the very heart of their music and apart of the legacy of Funk.

Looking back, George Clinton's Parlament/Funk-A-Delics was widely considered the "The King of Funk" and I agree this t be true today. Clearly, without my awareness back then, Alembics were on the correct side of history. Which means Clinton and company were using the very best products for the groove!
82daion
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Username: 82daion

Post Number: 139
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post

I daresay that that group would be great no matter what instruments they played. ;-)

It is interesting to hear an Alembic guitar, for sure-I'd never had a chance to hear one that clearly before now.
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 259
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 1:34 pm:   Edit Post

I agree, and of course, The Funk-A-Delics didn't need Alembics.

The ideas of freedom of choice, and self expressions in music is what a true art form was all about. Again, it was a personal discovery for myself, and with much support of personal choices and choosing the Alembic, as the tool of choice, is even more fulfilling as a supporter of Alemebics.

A no endorsement Alembic policy, means, you can look back, and see others using their own judgements for the benefits of the music they are trying to manufacture, and nothing else.

The purposes of this video, was a personal eye opener, to heard a screeming Alembic Rolls Royce in the hands of the most preeminent Funk groups in the world.
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 260
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 1:36 pm:   Edit Post

The purposes of this video, was a personal eye opener, to "hear" a screeming Alembic Rolls Royce in the hands of the most preeminent Funk groups in the world.
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 261
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post

On the video, the Strat was fighting in the ring like a "Pit Bull terrier". It took two Alembics to take him on. :-)
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 295
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 5:31 pm:   Edit Post

what kinda strings was he using I wonder...any clue?
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 262
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post

Probaby roto sounds, dhs slinky (Who knows?) I was just 12 years old. :-)
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 296
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 9:20 pm:   Edit Post

did ya ever have a record by 'nu sound express ltd.'
...hopin someone mighta heard of them,
thanks
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1159
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post

It's good to know that you can get a good overdriven sound from an alembic guitar. I've not managed to get one I'm completely happy with yet through a food pedal although I get a useable one from my fender twin.

Jazzyvee
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 263
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post

I never heard of nu sound express ltd. Are they a funk band el?
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 264
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post

jazzyvee, I understand your vibes on Alebmic guitars. They just don't look like a typical rock guitar you run power cords, and flurries on.

Rock guitars has a image of physical abuse and are very "Keith Richards" like...

It just looks strange to see an Alembic lead guitar turned into an angrily, over-driven; over the edge; pro non anti-depressant; finger slashing, bending heavy metal monster. Damn, it got bite, and I love it!
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 297
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 4:03 am:   Edit Post

I'm guessing a good (tube)compressor that doesn't mask the attack too much and keeps the level around that of a passive system set of pickups in the front of a signal chain might help to adapt the alembic system to typical effects chain so one could switch from an alembic to a les paul without changing too many settings while getting pleasing results on both.


I can run my bass or even vocals thru my guitar rack if I use the HHB Fatman at the front.It's been years since I've owned a functioning Alembic series instrument so this is all just pontification...when I find my next alembic guitar I'll probably drop the trimpots down way low to match some passive pickups.

I'll know more about 'nu sound...' once I receive the 45.I could hear them online but I want to experience them first with vinyl and ampex tube amps...so I'll let ya know in a week or so.
peace
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3031
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 9:33 am:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee:

Ever tried the Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Classic with your Alembic?

Bill, tgo
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 265
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post

My Godin Artisan strat uses Seymore Duncan with 3 interesting single-coil-sized "humbuckers". I can't say I ever played a better or more clean over-driven "reverb-on board" guitar. Its also the best blues guitar, I ever played in years. Turn it on, and its quiet with no noise or feedback sounds without your commands.

A choice between my Godin and a Alembic Series 1 lead, the Godin wins hands down. I would even choose my Godin over a early model 1960's Fender Strat classic.

However, keeping this string in context of Michael Hampton's usage of Series 1 lead guitars in the video, is very rare, but very important to document.

Below is a link showing the picture of my Godin Strat if interested.

http://www.alembic.com/club/messages/393/43700.html?1191135408
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 266
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post

"Who needs huge humbuckers on a strat body when you can stay trim..."

The Seymore Duncan company, created a line of noise cancelling humbuckers "double coiled" pickups, in the size of traditional single coil pickup configurations.
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 267
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

Double coil, but size of a single coiled pickup...

davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6431
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee; food pedals are probably most effective when trying to get mustard and ketchup on lots of sandwiches in a short period of time. But yes, I can see why you wouldn't be completely happy running an Alembic through one.
brb9911
Junior
Username: brb9911

Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post

This clip made my day -- thanks for sharing. Nice to see an Alembic all growling and overdriven like that!
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 457
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post

200% agree!!

G
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 269
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 3:11 am:   Edit Post

Scream Alembic Scream!!!!

Michael Hampton

http://www.youtube.com/v/Z4YsGIIx-XQ&hl=en
brb9911
Junior
Username: brb9911

Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post

Fantastic! Not only does this completely rock, but I can really begin to appreciate the complexity of the tone through my headphone rig, even though it's YouTube ....

I'm bookmarking these 2 clips -- who says active electronics can't make the sound of a wailing banshee?!

Also, FWIW -- the Fender Hot Noiseless Pickups ("Jeff Beck" signature) are also "stacked humbuckers" in a single-coil configuration ... They've really reduced the noise on my hot-modded MIM Strat.
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 270
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post

Michael Hampton, plays "Maggot Brain" A 70's classic.

It is amazing to such a prolific era for music from where we are now. Its sad, but for over 40 years, I had never focused my attention on Alembic "Lead" guitars as being a force to acknowledge from this perspective. I just did think people bought them for this sound. However, maybe I am right, and perhaps this is why Parliament / Funk-A-Delics challenges and confronts this idea head on.

Michael surly was "taming his Alembic beast into cosmic funk submission, to earn and gain citizenship for the conditions of free egos for the sake of the groove" and it was refreshing!

If I find more out there, I'll post it here.
kmh364
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Username: kmh364

Post Number: 2244
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 5:10 am:   Edit Post

Cool! Funk on!

FWIW, That Alembic tone is as close to Ty Tabor's (King's X) as I've heard. I'm wondering what his gear set-up is (was)? Tabor used to get his (closely guarded) tone from a Strat Elite thru a (Gibson) Lab Series pre-amp. Maybe it's just in the fingers...Tabor still has his sound even though he plays a signature Yamaha (with either humbuckers or single coils) thru Mesa Boogie stuff.
hendixclarke
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Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 271
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post

I had a chance replay the above solo, to marinate again, before this post regretfully gets buried with the rest of our messages in the sand...

After listening again, I felt happy to know Alembics are deeply rooted and grounded in the FUNK (THE BEATLES OF FUNK). I rest my case, the case is closed.
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 313
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post

this case here? ...this box?...says PANDORA..
should I open it?

maybe just breath...AUM

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