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aquaman
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Username: aquaman

Post Number: 58
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 5:32 pm:   Edit Post

My Exploiter is over 24 years old and has a near mint finish. What is really surprising is how beautiful sounding the bass is and the question that springs to mind: just how long should these pickups last with "average" use? No moving parts must play a role in longevity, but what is reasonable to expect?
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 348
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 6:58 pm:   Edit Post

I would think many many decades, barring abuse resulting in broken wires or demagnetized magnets. However, rumor has it that Jerry Garcia would have his strat pickups remagnetized on a regular basis as felt they would lose their power. I find that very surprising as I have had my strat pickups since 1983 and they seem as good as new.

Edwin
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6669
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 7:32 pm:   Edit Post

The impression I get from reading the posts here on the forum is that, while every once in a while someone reports a problem with a pickup, for the most part the pickups seem to age just fine.
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 350
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 9:20 pm:   Edit Post

I have a 70's series 1 guitar...One pickup has been damaged...probably (as edwin mentioned) due to a little abuse.Most likely improper technique in adjusting pickup height.

The other still sounds great...though I've been using outboard preamps since the series electronics were disconnected when I received the guitar.
I've yet to experience the full glory of a stereo spread and a whisper quiet electronics package from the guitar.
I'll have to someday send her back to the mothership for an overhaul and calibration.
jbybj
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Username: jbybj

Post Number: 169
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post

I've got some passive Fender Jazz pickups that are 40 years old, and they sound as good as when I first heard them 33 years ago.
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 315
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 5:49 am:   Edit Post

A couple of years ago I had the opportunity to play a Telecaster & a "Nocaster" with serial numbers 2 apart, making them either the last Nocaster & 2nd Tele, or the next-to-last Nocaster & 1st Tele. That would put them, at the time, just over 50 tears old. Two of the worst-playing guitars I've ever held, but the pick-ups sounded amazing. I've heard Fareed Haque play a jazz box (I forget the brand) from the early '40s, & they don't get much older than that. It, too, had great sound. P/ups should (and apparently do) last pretty much forever.

Peter

(Message edited by cozmik_Cowboy on June 16, 2008)
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 510
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post

The theory is that as the magenetic field deteriorates the sound becomes mellow, Kent Armstrong (the pick up guru) here in the UK offers a re magnetising service if they become too mellow.
Does older sound better or is it all a myth and we are lead to believe it so
pauldo
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Username: pauldo

Post Number: 56
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Rich,
Does your Exploiter have a small chip on one of the pick ups?
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 353
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 6:29 pm:   Edit Post

hmmm...sounds familiar
here's mine...hurts to look at itp'up
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 512
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 7:07 am:   Edit Post

elwoodblue..how did that happen..did you hit it with a hammer??? Epoxy is tough stuff
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 355
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post

Thats how I received it a few years back.
It was my first alembic purchase and one of my first ebay guitar purchases (2001 or so).I was clueless as to what should be and how ebay sellers should have full and detailed descriptions.

a '76 (maybe 78 as the stamp is light on the second digit) series 1 #1100,
I got a fair deal looking back even though nothing electronically was functional.

...so there's only alot of opportunity for joy as I get her more functional...presently there is some passive pickups in it with some aria pro guts.
Plays like a dream...I bet someday it'll sound like an alembic should.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3123
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post

Elwoodblue:

With a serial number of 1100, it is a '78, not a '76. My '76 Series I guitar is #476 and my '77 Series I 12 string is, IIRC, #979.

Bill, tgo
elwoodblue
Advanced Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 356
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post

Thanks bill...I had a hunch 1100 was '78... I was gonna look closer in better light later today.

...much appreciated.

(it has a name on the truss rod cover, 'Bill Welton' ;
if this rings a bell with anyone let me know.)

(and my apologies for hijacking the thread)
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 351
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 6:30 pm:   Edit Post

Hey, Elwood, are the electronics still in the instrument? If you are anywhere near Colorado and want to bring it by, I'd be happy to take a look and see if I can get them running. Likewise, if I happen to come to a town near you and you want to come down after soundcheck. The electronics on Series instruments are very sturdy and should be in decent shape unless they've been hacked.

Edwin
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 358
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post

Edwin,
Let me gather it all over the next couple days and make sure I'm not missing anything(it's been shuffled thru the years ; I think I know which box and envelope to look for).
At one point I was using the humcanceller as a passive pick-up.

I'll have to have the pick-ups fixed first so no hurry.
I want to see ya live sometime...I saw you will be in idaho for the fourth with moonalice, unless the webpage I was looking at was a year old(wouldn't be the first time).

You might even be able to guide me thru it ...I'll start a thread with pics in a week or so.
I've been holding back because as good as she sounds with passive (gibson s-1 and a seymour strat pickup) guts she is magnet for criticism from purist alembicians.
:-) thank you thank you thank you :-)
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 513
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 3:40 am:   Edit Post

elwoodblue..would be nice to see her restored to her former glory..maybe pre and post renovation pics.
As long as the skeleton is intact then we can always transplant the heart if you see what I mean.
I know someone who secured a 1960's Gibson SG at a car boot sale(don't know what you call them over in the US of A) for £10 because the neck had come off the body..what a find!!!
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 361
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 3:59 am:   Edit Post

I'll start a thread and link it from here and swallow my pride and post some pics...thanks for the nudge.(The last car boot I experienced was our buick skylark convertable...that's where the top went when it was down)

smiling halfway across this big blue marble...
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 353
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post

That's our upcoming schedule. It will be fun playing with Moonalice, because it means we get Barry for our sets! Sadly, I don't think Jack will be at those shows.

Get in touch if you will be around and I'll be sure to put you on the list!

Edwin
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 369
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post

cool...
I went to school in pullman...I know that road to idaho well...if I can getaway I'll let you know.
I'll have to catch your show at sometime.
It looks like I'll be playing bass for a Hendrix Band this fall...rehearsals might make travelling in July a challenge.

I missed Jack and Moonalice when they played seattle...it was a nice little venue too...dagnabbit.


take care,
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6678
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post

A Hendrix band should be fun; lots of nice bass lines.

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