| Author | Message | ||
| frank
Member Username: frank Post Number: 57 Registered: 12-2005 |
Hi, Anyone use bergantino cabs? I'm looking at the AE 1x12, probobly playing it through a markbass little mark II. Anyone have this rig? the head runs 300 watts at 8 ohms (AE1x12 is 8 ohms). It seemed pretty efficient, as it was pretty loud at half volume. I'll be using it for playing in small to medium sized bar gigs and jams with drummer, guitar and keys. Any opinions would be appreciated! Thanks, Nick | ||
| bassjigga
Advanced Member Username: bassjigga Post Number: 332 Registered: 8-2005 |
I used to use an HT322. It's the 2x10, 1x12, tweet cab. It sounded good. However I switched to Glockenklang and found it much more refined, clear, and smooth. Just depends on what you're looking for. I really recommend anything Glock makes. They sound like whatever you put through them. They also have a nice 1x12 if that's what you're lookin for. Probably similarly priced. | ||
| wayne
Intermediate Member Username: wayne Post Number: 158 Registered: 5-2002 |
The two cabs I'll never part with: Bag End 1x15 and Bergantino HT112. Can comment much on the MarkBass gear. The one I tried in GC couldn't handle the output of my Series I. Tone was good, but couldn't get the gain above 1 without clipping. C-Ya.........wayne | ||
| frank
Member Username: frank Post Number: 58 Registered: 12-2005 |
I found that the output seemed a little low when playing my Orion 5 through the Little Mark II. It just couldn't get the same volume as a sadowsky I tried through it. What is that all about? | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 1044 Registered: 2-2005 |
There is a gain pot on the inside of your Orion that is used to balance it's output to other basses you might have. Here is the link to a picture in the FAQ. Keith | ||
| frank
Member Username: frank Post Number: 59 Registered: 12-2005 |
Awesome, I'll check it out and see if that does the trick. Thanks | ||
| hanske
New Username: hanske Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2006 |
I,ve played several years on Glockenklang amplification. Very good, but heavy. At the moment I'm playing on the new rig from Bergantino. It's the IP112ER in combination with the HT112ER. I think the first set on the continent of Europe. For small gigs I only use the IP112ER. For the bigger gigs I use them both. You hear exactly what you are playing even on high volumes. The weight is 22 kg for the IP112ER, and only 17 kg for the extra cab. The output of the amp in the IP112ER is 500watt at 8 ohm, and 1000watt at 4 ohm (with both cabinets)  (Message edited by Hanske on June 23, 2008) | ||
| tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon Post Number: 791 Registered: 11-2004 |
I've never played the Berg cabs, but I can echo Wayne's sentiments about the Bag End S-15. For a 15" it's got an incredibly small footprint and only weighs about 45lbs. | ||
| frank
Member Username: frank Post Number: 60 Registered: 12-2005 |
that is a very sweet rig, I bet it sounds sick! I would love to get an IP 1x12 but at the moment it's a bit out of my price range. So you use the IP cab to power the F-1X? How do you like the HT 1x12? | ||
| briant
Advanced Member Username: briant Post Number: 202 Registered: 12-2004 |
I have yet to play a Berg cab that I didn't think was fantastic. I'd really like to pick up a HT322 at some point - those cabs are nothing short of amazing. | ||
| spliffy
Intermediate Member Username: spliffy Post Number: 106 Registered: 3-2003 |
I use a walter woods head (amber light) with a Berg HT115. Aparently the head is not powerful enough to bring out all the quality of the berg, but I am poor, and am enjoying what I have. Sorry no pics. | ||
| 82daion
Intermediate Member Username: 82daion Post Number: 160 Registered: 5-2005 |
I've heard mixed reviews on the HT322-apparently they need a lot of power to reach their potential. I've played my bass through an HT112/LMII and an IP212/Glockenklang setup. Both sounded amazing. | ||
| frank
Member Username: frank Post Number: 62 Registered: 12-2005 |
oooh, which Glockenlang? the AE1x12's impedence is 8 ohms so it will run at 300 watts through the LMII. It was definitly powerful and louder than I had expected and thats with the gain pot on my orion set relatively low. I am pretty sold on the AE 1x12 and LMII combination, but I wanted to try some aguilar stuff before buying. Has anyone bought off musiciansfriend.com? They have a great deal on the LMII right now. Are they legitimate? anyone had any problems with them? | ||
| lmiwa
Junior Username: lmiwa Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2008 |
You might want to take a look at Phil Jones cabs too. www.philjonesbass.com | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Advanced Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 321 Registered: 10-2006 |
Musician's Friend is the mail-order arm of Guitar Center. I have used them for years for strings, as 1)their prices are OK and 2) very few stores stock the strings I like. I also bought my son a Fender Blues Junior from them - when I clicked to buy, it gave me the option of going with a "Blemished" unit for ~$100 less. As the kid is the sort who buys all his clothes at resale shops, I figured "why not?" and went for it. It was pristine - not a mark or flaw on it. I might be hesitant about buying an intrument from them, but no more than any source where I can't play it first. For things like strings, electronics, etc., where you're less likely to experience "personality", if you know what you want, they are certainly a viable option. Peter | ||
| frank
Member Username: frank Post Number: 64 Registered: 12-2005 |
Thanks, unfortunatly they don't ship the little mark II to Canada...I have my eye on a tweed gig bag though. | ||
| lowlife
Advanced Member Username: lowlife Post Number: 342 Registered: 12-2003 |
Frank, If you`re interested in the Mark Bass line you could try Italmelodie in Montreal (http://www.italmelodie.com/Italsite/indexflash.html) . I`ve tried different pieces there and I`m sure that they can ship anywhere in Canada. Ellery (Lowlife) | ||
| tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon Post Number: 798 Registered: 11-2004 |
Frank- I'm not sure of your location in/around Toronto, but the Musician's Friend prices are hard to beat when they have sales.... if it were me I might be tempted to ship to a friend in the Buffalo area and then make a short drive (depending on the linked Italemelodie prices). | ||
| 82daion
Intermediate Member Username: 82daion Post Number: 161 Registered: 5-2005 |
In regards to the Glockenklang, I believe that the preamp was a Bugatti. | ||
| svlilioukalani
New Username: svlilioukalani Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2008 |
Hi I got a bergantino single 12 used, from BassNW in Seattle, a month ago. Bought the Second one a few days later. I love the sound. And they are the lightest weight cabs I could find. I use em with a Genz Benz Shuttle amp, (similar to a Mark Bass), and a Epic fretless, or Warwick fretted. I use a very bright sound. And play a hard slap bass. And these guys take it well. In the store I tried them side by side with a Bag End, Ampeg, Eden, and about every other small rig I could get my hands on. The staff at BassNW love a good science project. The reviews complained about not enought high end. But, I don't think so. I have no need for the model with a horn. They're clean, bright, loud, and very portable. I have done 10 show with them so far. For small to moderate size clubs there my speeker of choice. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 6718 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hi Gary; welcome to the club, and thanks for the review! | ||
| rogueman
New Username: rogueman Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2006 |
I can vouch for the Aguilar's. I have two GS 112's and they are so big and fat sounding. They won the editors top tone award in the 2002 Bass player magazine. Totally smooth and deep. Check out the Ag's for sure. Welcome Gary. | ||
| keurosix
Advanced Member Username: keurosix Post Number: 360 Registered: 10-2005 |
When I bought my Europa 6 string from G-Guitars, the salesman set me up playing through an EBS 350 head and a 3x12 Berg cabinet. It sounded so good I bought the bass! I now play through an AccuGroove El Whappo 4 way cab and can honestly say it sounds better than the 3x12 Berg cab. Very Hi-Fi studio sound. It can reproduce subtle tone changes with frightening accuracy. Kris | ||
| bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 1381 Registered: 11-2003 |
I would love to get an El Whappo. That's next on my list. | ||
| bigbadbill
Senior Member Username: bigbadbill Post Number: 447 Registered: 10-2003 |
Rogueman, I also have 2 Aguilar GS112s and I don't like them and am looking to replace asap. They are indeed fat sounding but I have to say that's not really what I'm after; I'm more an aggressive-sounding Entwistle/Squire guy. I hate the tweeters (still, I don't like tweeters much at the best of times), but without the tweeters the treble response is poor. I recently a/b-d them with my old Trace 1153 1x15 (which a friend now owns) and the Trace blew them out of the water, which was irritating as I sold the Trace for reasons of weight and replaced it with the Ags. The tweeterless Trace had far more high end than the Agi had with the tweeter turned off, was far more articulate and far more detailed, and was far more aggressive sounding. It was louder and marginally deeper-sounding too, although I have to say with the same eq it wasn't quite a fat. If anyone knows a lightweight cab that has a similar voicing to the 1153 I'd love to know. It seems like most of the lightweight cabs I try have tweeters (which as I say I don't like) and yet when you turn the tweeters off they have no high end. And most of them are too smooth for me; I want some growl and snarl. | ||
| frank
Member Username: frank Post Number: 73 Registered: 12-2005 |
I ended up getting the Berg 1x12 and it is unreal! The tweeter control is great, my brother even turned it all the way off and was getting some smooth jazz tones with a les paul special with P-90's. I'm playing it through a Little Mark II head which is insanly versatile. Between the versatility of the LMII and the berg cab it's a sweet rig. Anywho...If you havn't played through a berg cab I would highly recomend it! I found the tweeter to be quite manageable and as I said earlier, versatile. Not to mention my Mom can lift my whole rig. The cab is incredibly lightweight and after playing all sorts of cabs (bag end, EA, Epifani, Aguilar, Ampeg, etc.) I found the bergs to be the sweetest...The 4x10 ruled! But I like my 1x12...and she growls! | ||
| dnburgess
Senior Member Username: dnburgess Post Number: 567 Registered: 1-2003 |
Shaun - if you are looking for an aggressive cabinet, you might want to check out Schroeder. They make no pretense at being hifi - but they do have terrific cut through. I'm not crazy about their single driver models - but the 1212L or 1210L are pretty compact, handle massive power and are very efficient. | ||
| bigbadbill
Senior Member Username: bigbadbill Post Number: 448 Registered: 10-2003 |
David I've heard really good things about the Schroeders too. Thanks for the advice; I really need to try one/some. BTW, sorry to hijack the thread! | ||
| gare
Senior Member Username: gare Post Number: 420 Registered: 11-2003 |
Frank Congrats on the new rig. I'm also using the LMKII..great little amp. I use it with either a Schroeder 1210 or a 21012. One thing I really like about that amp is the VLE & VPF controls. (although I wish they were foot switchable) I usually set the tweeter up about 3/4 and then fine tune with the VLE, all others controls are set flat, any adjustments I make from the instrument (an Excel). Although never having tried the Bergs the LMKII sounded hi-fi to my ears thru Bag End cabinets. Gary |
