| Author | Message | ||
| thumbsup
Junior Username: thumbsup Post Number: 48 Registered: 7-2008 |
where can I get a tune key which drops pitch at a flip for my rogue? does the Alembic store offer?not sure what they're called. just saw a michael manring video. very cool. | ||
| 3rd_ray
Member Username: 3rd_ray Post Number: 64 Registered: 2-2008 |
I've never used one, but I know that Hipshot makes them... http://www.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=6 I'm pretty sure than Zon/Manring use Hipshot. Mike | ||
| fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 720 Registered: 5-2006 |
Works great, I've got one on my '83 Spoiler:  BTW Congrats with your new Rogue, welcome to the club :-) (Message edited by fc_spoiler on August 03, 2008) | ||
| tomhug
Junior Username: tomhug Post Number: 16 Registered: 7-2008 |
More info on Manring's Zon Hyperbass here, here and here. I read somewhere that the tuning system was custom-developed by Manring and Zon, so I am not sure if there are after market equivalents. | ||
| eldiablo
Junior Username: eldiablo Post Number: 17 Registered: 3-2008 |
When i bought my Essence it had a Hipshot on it and it works great. | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 1074 Registered: 2-2005 |
From the web page it looks like Zon offers the Hipshot as an option. Snippet: Options General: Hipshot x-tender Keith | ||
| pauldo
Member Username: pauldo Post Number: 63 Registered: 6-2006 |
Got one (Hipshot) on my Distillate - love it! Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDayLS4RBA, Manring has hipshots on all 4 strings. Everytime he flips one the fretboard layout changes..... amazing. And there is something going on at the bridge where he can alter tunings..... doubly amazing. | ||
| tomhug
Junior Username: tomhug Post Number: 17 Registered: 7-2008 |
To elaborate, I realize that the Hipshot x-tender is out there and on many of the basses in the club. But the tuning adjustment the Steve was likely to have seen on YouTube is more involved then the single lever on the headstock. I've seen Mr. Manring play that bass live and each string has (I think) 3 possible open notes (or is it 6?). More specifics and availability of the system discussed here. Personally, although I admire Mr. Manring, I consider it a good day when I can get around the ol' E-A-D-G, with an occasional foray into B-E-A-D-G-B or D-A-D-G. | ||
| thumbsup
Junior Username: thumbsup Post Number: 49 Registered: 7-2008 |
Mr. Manring is a master! I checked out the hipshot site.Thanks..I was going to get only one for my high g and then I though of getting a 5 set because one of the guitar players in one of the bands I play in will ocassionally pick up a different axe tuned down.(by coincidence its always a Hendrix tune,go figure!) I usually just adjust by fretting down half step. It's not that hard once you get used to the progression of a tune but it jacks with scale tecniques & octave work on the low b & e sometimes.(guitar players! do you really got to have um! *&^*!) Anyway,so do you think using extenders on all 5 would work to quickly tune down and stay tuned when you tune back up? | ||
| dfung60
Advanced Member Username: dfung60 Post Number: 350 Registered: 5-2002 |
The Hipshot Extenders are excellent, and the guys at the company are really dedicated to making a great product. Call and talk to them about exactly which model to get - there are many variations that they've developed to maximize compatibility and functionality. Their manufacturing project is pretty complicated. They start with the OEM head that you have (Gotoh, Schaller, clockwise, counterclockwise, whatever). They actually disassemble it and lengthen the center shaft to accomodate the additional thickness of the detuning mechanism. They have different variations of the baseplate to fit different instruments as well, so you can put one on a 90 Fender Jazz and not have the baseplate hanging over the edge of the headstock. The Manring Hyperbass is totally wild. He has an Extender on each of the four strings on his headstock so not only are there many alternate tunings, but he will flip pairs of them to get a pedal steel effect. But that's not all. He also has a special bass version of the Hipshot Trilogy guitar bridge. Each string has a lever on the bridge which can raise or lower each string to two alternate pitches. These alternate tunings don't have to be a half step or step up or down and the "up" and "down" transpositions don't have to be the same either. So there are a lot of possible tunings and different ways to get there. The bridge is not sold retail and you don't even get one on the Manring signature Zon Hyperbass. I've watched Manring playing lots of this crazy stuff up close at the Zon booth at NAMM and I can't figure out how you even think about playing an instrument like that. He has certain pieces that are played in a more traditional style without too much transposition and other pieces where a lot of the playing is open alternate tunings with a lot of changes. If Michael Manring boggles your mind, go see Adrian Legg sometime... His CDs (especially the earlier ones) are pretty amazing, but you really need to check him out live. That's when you realize that what you thought were three overdubbed guitar parts are actually all done by one man on one instrument at one time. His instruments have banjo tuners on all six strings, with an alternate tuning stop. He changes tuning while playing but often you can't tell that he's doing it (well, I can't). Just amazing. I saw him in a little soundroom at NAMM and we had the opportunity to ask questions during his set. When asked about his influences, he mentioned that his techniques derive from banjo and pedal steel as well as non-Western alternate tuning. Just doesn't sound like any of that stuff to me! David Fung | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 6867 Registered: 5-2002 |
That would be this guy! Thanks David, that was pretty cool! |
