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hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 325 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 5:31 pm: | |
Who else out there besides Stanley Clarke, play big bass with a bow? I just love what Stan does with them. I was listening to an old RTF "No Mystery" Track 7 on CD. DAMN that was good. Stan must had been a teenager back then... |
jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko
Post Number: 1903 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 4:22 am: | |
I guess every Bass player in every orchestra around the world can switch happily between Pizzicato and arco. Graeme |
jseitang
Advanced Member Username: jseitang
Post Number: 237 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 7:41 am: | |
i majored in classical bass in college. i played german bow, and im tellin you, its no walk in the park. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1926 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 7:49 am: | |
OOps dbl post OO (Message edited by olieoliver on September 11, 2008) |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1927 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 7:50 am: | |
OOPS, again OO (Message edited by olieoliver on September 11, 2008) |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1928 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 7:51 am: | |
I play upright some and use a bow some but have never mastered it. Need to work on it more but after 3 or 4 "squeaks" I get frustrated and give it the finger(s). OO |
dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso
Post Number: 839 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 11:54 am: | |
EDGAR MEYER y'all! |
worldfamousandy
Intermediate Member Username: worldfamousandy
Post Number: 123 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 12:20 pm: | |
Ray Brown, occasionally. I like "Black Orpheus" on the album of the same name (Ray Brown Trio, with Jeff Hamilton and Gene Harris). Check out Gary Karr's stuff, too. |
hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 326 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 4:02 pm: | |
Thanks Andy -- Gary Karr's music is wonderful. How did I go through life all this time, and never heard his music...? This is why I love/hate this site so much. Thank you from the bottom of my heart Andy. |
pauldo
Member Username: pauldo
Post Number: 67 Registered: 6-2006
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 4:52 pm: | |
I play upright with a bow (french style) ! :-) I am getting better with alot more practicing,,, I used to be afflicted like Olie. The squeeks are not as frequent now but for some reason my left (fingering hand) is not as dexterious when I am bowing,,, it must be all my thoughts sinking into my right hand and departing the left. Edgar Meyer fer sure!!! Renaud Garcia Fons is certainly worth a listen also. |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1480 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 6:21 pm: | |
The trick (or one of about a hundred) is to not move the bow too fast. More pressure at first, to get the string speaking, then feel for a speed where the bow seems connected to the string and not sliding (or careening, as my technique has been characterized) across the strings. The fullest tone comes when you have the most resistance against the string, if that makes sense. Louder near the bridge and the bow moves more slowly than when nearer the end of the fingerboard. I play both German and French, and definitely prefer French. John |
jseitang
Advanced Member Username: jseitang
Post Number: 238 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 6:47 pm: | |
check out giovanni botessini guys |
darkstar01
Intermediate Member Username: darkstar01
Post Number: 124 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 9:25 pm: | |
francois rabbath. |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 7032 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 9:46 pm: | |
Glen Moore |
richbass939
Senior Member Username: richbass939
Post Number: 975 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 6:40 am: | |
A couple of questions for you arco folks. Do you wipe the resin buildup off the strings between songs or leave it there? I've seen it done both ways by professionals. For you German bow people, do you hold the bow the French bow way or put your ring and middle fingers through the frog? Rich |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1483 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 7:10 am: | |
I would clean the rosin off fairly regularly. It's been awhile, but I used a fairly soft/sticky rosin that built up quickly. I don't know if cleaning it is really necessary or does any good, but I figure it can't hurt. I would also clean it off the top of the instrument with Fiddle Bright (if I recall correctly) every so often.. As for the German bow thing, the ring and middle fingers shouldn't actually pass through the frog. It hinders mobility and isn't necessary, though most people hold it that way. Playing French with a German bow is no big deal with a little practice, but not optimal because the bow wants to rotate. John |
hankster
Intermediate Member Username: hankster
Post Number: 179 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 12:37 pm: | |
Neil Swainson. John Carter. Michel Donato. (the departed) Slam Stewart. and many others, no doubt. Rick |
hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke
Post Number: 327 Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 7:18 pm: | |
I wish Alembic create a big bass. |
811952
Senior Member Username: 811952
Post Number: 1494 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 8:04 pm: | |
My Series 1.5 is awfully large. ;) |
darkstar01
Intermediate Member Username: darkstar01
Post Number: 125 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 8:18 pm: | |
how about some avant garde? henry grimes, alan silva, barry guy, mark dresser. mark dresser makes some insane sounds with his bow. he also uses a pickup that amplifies overtones and other sounds that are usually missed that's mounted over the nut of his bass... i was kind of wondering if anyone knew anything about it. i have no idea what it is, i found a page one time that explained it, but i'm not a tech guy so it didn't make much sense to me. any clues? oh, and alembic makes the classico. does that count? |
adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan
Post Number: 1947 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 3:25 am: | |
hendixclarke - never heard of the Classico? [edit] oops - darkstar01 beat me to it. (Message edited by adriaan on September 15, 2008) |
jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko
Post Number: 1908 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 3:29 am: | |
Austin, any news on yours? Back on topic - Miroslav Vitous. Graeme |
funkyjazzjunky
Intermediate Member Username: funkyjazzjunky
Post Number: 199 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 12:50 pm: | |
François Rabbath's Reitba |