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juggernaught
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Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 231
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 8:22 pm:   Edit Post

I'm trying to brainstorm ideas on how to use the stereo output on my Brown Bass. I was thinking of doing an envelope filter on one output with a fuzz or something on the other. And then recombining the signals somehow (I haven't figured out how I would do that).

What sorts of creative ways have people here used the stereo outputs?
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 463
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 8:27 pm:   Edit Post

F-2B!!! You can EQ the channels separately, then use the mono/summed output.

I do one clean and one distorted a lot. Distortion results in a smoothed out signal volume-wise, then when you dig in the clean signal jumps out more (even with compression).
juggernaught
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Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 232
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 8:35 pm:   Edit Post

hrm. can you even use the f-2b with a full head w/ preamp? would it be better to get a sf-2?
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 464
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 8:45 pm:   Edit Post

Good question(s). RE: using the F-2B with another amp - I don't see why not. I used a Fodera Model 2000 preamp in front of my amp all the time. That's all that active basses are, except with a preamp built in. At least that's how I thought of the F-2B. Just be kind of careful on the volume out of the F-2B. But someone correct me if I'm wrong!

I'm not sure if you can sum two separate signals with the SF-2, someone else will have to answer that one.

The best thing is to get both! I'm only half-kidding - the F-2B is so awesome for direct recording, I use it all the time, even for my synths.
dadabass2001
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Username: dadabass2001

Post Number: 966
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post

I used to love running my Guild Starfire bridge pickup through a Small Stone and my neck pickup through a Y-Trigger Filter, then each into a channel of my old Ampeg SBT, EQed separately. I almost never used both effects at once. I'm talking mid-70s.

Mike
jseitang
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Username: jseitang

Post Number: 241
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 7:32 pm:   Edit Post

hey the guild has stereo outputs on the bass for each pickup?
dadabass2001
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Username: dadabass2001

Post Number: 968
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 5:18 am:   Edit Post

Jimmy,
Not stock, I ordered it stereo from the factory (through a local dealer), and a natural finish as well in 1973. It's similar to Anniversary electronics, each pickup is separated in the cord with a stereo output jack to two mono 1/4 plugs. It also has ganged pots for the master volume knob , so the paths are truly isolated.
Mike
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 465
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post

I've seen Guild JS-2's that were stereo, but never a stock Starfire. Sounds cool!
crgaston
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Username: crgaston

Post Number: 474
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 8:16 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, the F2B allows you to sum the signals. Many heads have a power amp input on the back which bypasses the preamp section, or you could just pick up a power amp.
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 358
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 9:05 pm:   Edit Post

I use an F2B into a SF2 into a Lexicon MPX G2 into an iAmp 800 active input. Works fine.

Edwin
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 466
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 9:10 pm:   Edit Post

Can the SF-2 sum two separate signals by itself?
jseitang
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Username: jseitang

Post Number: 242
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post

i think so, someone wants to weigh in on this?
crgaston
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Username: crgaston

Post Number: 475
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 9:27 am:   Edit Post

Yes, but you need to use a Y cable. With the superfilter in stereo mode, plug each P/U into it's own input on the back of the superfilter, then sum the outputs using the Y cable and run it to your amp.
jbybj
Intermediate Member
Username: jbybj

Post Number: 183
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post

When I was in college, in the late 70's, I wired each pu of my Jazz bass out separate sides of a stereo jack. I also made a y cable, stereo 1/4" to two mono 1/4". I ran the neck pup clean into the bass input of my traynor, and the bridge went through my little muff and a small stone into the guitar input of the amp. That was some big fun. Splitting you signal can open up a whole new world. I just read about taking a split signal through two envelope filters, one in an up sweep mode and the other in a down sweep mode, the possibilities spiral endlessly............

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