| Author | Message | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 180 Registered: 3-2007 |
I'm going on a week long trip to Minnesota to visit family (and visit Planetbass, please dont tell my partner!), and I want to bring along my Brown Bass. Does anyone have any experience with trying to bring a bass carry-on on Frontier? I called them up and their answer was "if there was room", which is at best ambiguous. Has anyone been forced by Frontier to gate-check? | ||
| funkyjazzjunky
Advanced Member Username: funkyjazzjunky Post Number: 209 Registered: 5-2007 |
Are flying 1st class? | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 181 Registered: 3-2007 |
nope :/ | ||
| glocke
Senior Member Username: glocke Post Number: 458 Registered: 9-2002 |
To be honest, your better off leaving it at home. A bass as carry on is still a large item, and it may or may not fit in the overhead. I am assuming you plan on bringing it in a gig bag? if you are lucky, and do get it to fit, there are still other people who will need to put the luggage into the overheads, which means other peoples crap will be pressing against your bass, and even in a gig bag this could cause minor damage. There is also the fact that if you get there and it wont fit, they will make you check it, in a gig bag. Even if it is able to get on as carryon, if you have to take a connector flight in a smaller plane, it will have to go into the luggage compartment. If you absolutely have to bring the bass, I would just get a real flight case for it and check it, and insure it... | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 183 Registered: 3-2007 |
I've never had any problems with the fitting gigbag in the overhead as long as they let it on the plane. and that's even with one of those regional planes on AA with a full flight. Super 8s are no problem too. | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 184 Registered: 3-2007 |
Also, I wanted to mention that my gig bag isn't any slouch either. It's a body glove hybrid, which is a hard soft case, and is able to withstand the kinds of bumps you'd expect in the overheads AFAIK. | ||
| glocke
Senior Member Username: glocke Post Number: 460 Registered: 9-2002 |
Up to you. Its your bass. I tried flying once with my jazz bass...i think the carrier was either northwest or frontier..in any case, they wouldnt let me bring it on as carryon despite assurances when i called it ahead that it would be allowed. Since it was in a gig bag I didnt want to check it, and ended up having to call someone to pick the bass up. | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 185 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was it Frontier? That's the kind of info I'm looking for. I've been hearing elsewhere that Frontier is good about this thing. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3283 Registered: 7-2004 |
And what happens if the nice airplane people let you carry-on your instrument, but the mean nasty airplane people say "no" on the way back? Going to fly with an instrument? Either get yourself a good flight case, or buy a cheapo instument that you won't mind too much if it gets destroyed. After all the $ I spent on my custom Further, it was a no brainer to spend a little more for a good custom Calton case for it. Bill, tgo | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 186 Registered: 3-2007 |
OK, I don't need nor want a lesson here. All I wanted to know what experiences people had with carry-ons specifically with Frontier. I'll take it from there, thank you very much. Capiche? | ||
| jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 1257 Registered: 6-2002 |
My experience here was a couple of years ago when I had a gig in Florida at the Bob Marley day Festival in Universal Studio's. I called the airline ahead and was told yes I could carry carrymy guitar on board as long as it would fit the overhead lockers. I took my alembic Orion guitar in a sturdy but not flight case. Similar to this but guitar shaped for a strat. http://undergroundmusic.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53&products_id=455&zenid=36573af0ff2645a4655fff089403ef2e I had no probs on the outward journey from London to Atlanta , then atlanta to Florida. However on the way back the check in team allowed me to take the guitar on the plane from florida to atlanta. In atlanta again they said yes I could carry it on board. However when I got to the passport control area where all personal items are x-rayed, I was told that I could not carry the guitar on the plane... So I had to go back to check-in and have a heated discussion about this with the clerks. In the end a senior manager came and said that the guitar could not go on the plane as it was a safety risk. However he did say that if I paid for an additional seat, i could carry the guitar on the plane. (strange logic that). In the end it had to go in the hold. Fortunately my Orion wasn't damaged in the trip. I have to say that I have not had that experience on trips in Europe. Jazzyvee | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 187 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was that Frontier? I don't think they fly those airports. However, you make a good point: the airport can make a difference. I've heard that ATL is especially anal. Any additional experience with Denver or Minneapolis/St Paul? | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 1126 Registered: 2-2005 |
Devon, The point you are missing here is it doesn't matter what airline you are dealing with. All of them are pretty much the same. There is no guarantee that you will be able to take the guitar with you in the cabin. Anywhere along the route through the airport an airline agent or flight crew member can say you have to check the instrument into baggage. If the flights you are going to be on are empty you most likely won't have any problems taking it into the cabin. If the flight is full it is very likely they will say it does not meet the carry on requirements or that there is not enough space so you have to check it. The only flights I recall where I could carry my bass consistently were the red eyes I used to fly between LA and Chicago every few weeks. This used to be a little easier some years ago when planes had more closets and didn't run so full. However even then having to gate check my bass was not uncommon. I only used a hard shell case but never had any problems as they hand carry the bass down to the cargo hold and hand carry it back to the gate at the destination. Since it is last on and first off it minimizes the risk of something bad happening. As JV also brought up you could buy a seat for it. This will guarantee you can take it in the cabin. Keith | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 188 Registered: 3-2007 |
Keith, I think you're missing something extremely fundamental here. Airlines and airports aren't homogeneously unpredictable as far as letting you carry-on. Just because it's a problem in general doesn't mean that X airline is just as difficult as Y airline. That has been my experience. For example, AA is very good from my experience as long as you are riding on a super 8. If you ride regional, then you may have to have a fit in the gate. This isn't Murphy's law here, it's prediction through statistics balanced with risk. I well understand the point of this being difficult; otherwise I wouldn't ask. I am well aware of the risks. What I want is specific information on a specific airline and airports. From that information, I can *predict* whether it is worth the risk of trying to carry-on. Are you trying to tell me that you have ridden or know of someone who has ridden every airline and had trouble with every single one of them, or are you generalizing some limited experiences to all possible experiences? Just to get this straight, ATA cases are not in the cards. If the only option is to check it, I'm not bringing it, no matter how far behind I get on practice. | ||
| glocke
Senior Member Username: glocke Post Number: 461 Registered: 9-2002 |
Devon, I just checked my trip info for that trip. It was Frontier. Dont take this personally, we are all only trying to help. For me personally, even IF i did have an ATA case Id be hard pressed to bring it on a trip. If you really need to practice while visiting, I would seriously just invest in an inexpensive bass. | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 189 Registered: 3-2007 |
Greg, that's exactly what I wanted. Thanks. I'm not taking it personally ;) I just get annoyed when I ask for an apple and I get a banana. I'm just anal as far as getting info, that's all. | ||
| jet_powers
Advanced Member Username: jet_powers Post Number: 379 Registered: 2-2003 |
And fruit are fruit.... | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 190 Registered: 3-2007 |
what? how am I supposed to make apple pie with a banana? Banana pie? I'd like to see you eat that after some turkey. :P | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 1127 Registered: 2-2005 |
Devon, I've had more problems with AA as opposed to United and Delta and these are typically on larger aircraft such as 747's and 757's (in addition to MD-80's and 737's). Back to the point is no one can give you an answer as there are too many variables. By the way I never have owned or used an ATA case. I always traveled with an old fashion hard shell. Keith | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 191 Registered: 3-2007 |
Too many variables? Keith, it's pretty easy: either you have experience with Frontier or you don't. If you have then you can answer the question. Then it's up to me to evaluate the risk. In regard to Greg and your experience, I may just bring a hard case and have them gate check it if they complain. That sounds like a safe option. Thanks a bunch for the great advice in the face of my silliness. (Message edited by juggernaught on September 28, 2008) | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 2023 Registered: 3-2004 |
Devon, I did a little research for you and here is what I have found. First, the TSA doesn't have any policy to prohibit carry-on of musical instruments, so they'll let you through security. We already knew that, but Frontier's documentation refers to the TSA regs, so I figured I'd make sure. Second, in case you didn't look, Frontier's official written policy will prohibit you from carrying a guitar on the plane. Their contract and website both say the following: "Your carry-on bag's dimensions can't exceed a total of 49 linear inches (length + width + depth) and the bag can't weigh more than 35 pounds." There is almost no way that any standard bass guitar, even a Brown Bass, would meet that size rule. My SC measures around 57 linear inches before you even put it in a bag. Certainly, there are travel guitars that would meet that spec and it's one reason I own a headless bass. I'm a short scale player like you, so I can tune a Steinberger down a whole step and capo at the second fret to get a feel much like the SC in terms of scale. Maybe the PlanetBass guys can lend/rent you a bass for the week? If they are near your parents as opposed to a pilgrimage, maybe you can contact them ahead to ask? (Message edited by bsee on September 28, 2008) | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 1128 Registered: 2-2005 |
If you decide to gate check don't forget to lock the latches. I also take a small bit of strapping tape with me and tape the latches closed at the gate. Keith | ||
| oujeebass
Intermediate Member Username: oujeebass Post Number: 131 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yeah, unless it was for a gig, I wouldn't bother trying to take your bass. Unless you can risk its demise. I would just take pictures of it if you'll miss it. | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 192 Registered: 3-2007 |
Bob: yeh, that's what I gathered too. I called a rep afterwords and they told me the official line with over-sized was "if there's room in the plane" or something to that effect, which isn't very reassuring. Also, planetbass letting me rent one of their basses would be a dream come true, but I can't imagine them doing so. Keith: so you usually gate check it? How many times have you done this, and has your bass ever sustained damage? Do they ever give gate-checked items to the throwers? Wade: my thoughts exactly. It's just I have all this crazy afro-cuban to practice, and I don't want to fall behind. (Message edited by juggernaught on September 29, 2008) | ||
| keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h Post Number: 1129 Registered: 2-2005 |
I use to fly with my Jazz Bass up till 10 or so years ago. Mostly between the west coast and Chicago. It was generally a couple/few times per year.I mainly did it when I was going to visit old band mates or was on a temporary assignment for work that lasted a month or more. I've done it once or twice since then. I've never had any damage to the bass. The case however shows 30+ years of use. Typically I would add a little additional padding in the case and tape the latches down at the gate as I as said above. The gate person tags it and sets it aside with other gate luggage. At some point a baggage handler comes up and retrieves the luggage. The few times I saw it loading from the cabin they put it on the conveyor into to the plane. Once you land the luggage is carried up to the gate by a luggage handler. To be honest I wouldn't do it for a week long trip. Given all of the hassles of getting through security and the extra crowded flights I think the lighter you can travel the better off you are. If I still did long trips like the old days I would probably consider packing it up in a box or crate and overnight the thing via UPS or other courier service. Keith | ||
| byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung Post Number: 1085 Registered: 12-2004 |
Devon, Every airline has the exact same policy on carryons: Every single line employee that you meet along the way has the right to reject your bag. Every one. And the airline/TSA will back them to the fullest. If a TSA agent decides that your instrument should not go through security, IT WILL NOT. Go read the TSA guidelines: every line employee has absolute authority, and will be backed by management. If the gate attendant decides that your instrument will not go on the flight, IT WILL NOT GO. Same policy applies. I have seen people kicked from flights for asking an impertinent question. No kidding. If the flight attendant decides that the instrument will not go in the overhead bin/must be checked, IT WILL, or you will get off the flight (and if you raise too much of a fuss you can be arrested). So, the questions you should ask (rather than some specific airline): Will someone be in a bad mood, and take it out on me? Will the flight be oversold? Do the people in question hate guitar players, because they just broke up with one? These are the sorts of fickle things that could destroy your instrument. Just in case it isn't already abundantly clear: an airline can have any policy they want, but if the flight attendant/gate attendant decides otherwise, that will be the official airline policy with regards to you and your flight. Finally, I want to separate reality (the above) from my opinion, which is that this is really, really messed up, and makes me feel like I'm in a police state. Bradley | ||
| rockbassist
Intermediate Member Username: rockbassist Post Number: 157 Registered: 8-2005 |
A couple of years ago, I flew from Providence to Nashville and brought my bass in a hard case, as a carry on. I was told that as long as it fit in the overhead bin that I could take it. I asked them what type of plane I would be taking and then had them check the size of the bins. I made sure that they put a note in the computer stating that I would be taking a guitar on board so that I would not have a problem when I got my boarding pass. When I arrived at the check-in counter, I was told that I would have to check the bass and put in the cargo hold. I asked to speak to a supervisor and she allowed my to take the bass on board. Here is a link to a website that lists the airlines and the maximum size and weight that you are allowed to carry on. Good Luck http://www.thetravelinsider.info/travelaccessories/airlinecarryonluggageallowances.htm | ||
| basstard
Advanced Member Username: basstard Post Number: 248 Registered: 3-2003 |
Bradley - you said that an airline employee has the right to say the luggage will not go. How do gigging musicians who have to fly with their instruments frequently manage then? Have you heard horror stories? I'm quite worried here because I'll be flying to Chicago (and back) with my band in early November... | ||
| byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung Post Number: 1087 Registered: 12-2004 |
I have seen many, many horror stories in my frequent flyer days. Not just instruments. Musicians who fly frequently (I can't speak for all of them, but have seen enough to establish what seems like a pattern) use ATA approved flight cases and check their instruments. The only other option (which I suspect upright bassists are likely to use) is to buy a seat for the instrument. I didn't want to buy a flight case for my bass, which left me two options: 1) Buy a seat for the bass 2) Drive to Santa Rosa Fortunately, the mothership is only 800 miles from home, and my brother lives nearby. So, I drove. The one policy that does matter with regards to airline policy: if you check the instrument, make sure that they are willing to insure it. Also, I'd be hesitant to fly with an instrument that I could not replace for $2500 or less (the limitation of damages), even in an ATA case. Bradley | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 2024 Registered: 3-2004 |
I don't suppose the Brown Bass can be made to fit in the ATA case for your Distllate, can it? Either that, or that you can take the Distillate with you to practice for the week and delay your sale until the trip is over? Probably cost you $50-75 to check the flight case, though. I bet they charge you that amount each way, too. Financially, you'd do better to find the local guitar shop and buy the cheapest used Dean or Yamaha you can find and then sell it back at the end of the week if you can stand to play such an instrument. | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 193 Registered: 3-2007 |
Even better is if I can find someone in MN to buy the Distillate. That would justify bringing it and I'd be able to practice  Any takers? | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 2025 Registered: 3-2004 |
Sorry, I'm in MA and about six hundred short... | ||
| rockbassist
Intermediate Member Username: rockbassist Post Number: 158 Registered: 8-2005 |
byoung mentioned using ATA flight cases. I had an airline employee tell me to never check an instrument into the cargo hold no matter what kind of case it's in. Chances are it will get damaged or stolen. Many musicians that I have come across and do a lot of travelling do one of the following: Carry the instrument on the plane in a gig bag, ship the instrument via FedEx, UPS or another carrier, (always remembering to insure it), or just have the equipment truck bring it to the next gig. I would call the airline and find out what their policy is | ||
| hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke Post Number: 328 Registered: 6-2007 |
Get on the plane... Your bass will fit overhead with ease. I had the same problem, but I purchased a bass, so I didn't have a choice but to understand the laws. Airlines are cool, so stay cool. Boeing made the majority of airbuses with more than enough room in the above head lockers. Also, consider taking the red-eye flight... this way, fewer people... The fewer the people, the friendly the people and the more room you will have. Don't sweat it, you don't need to worry, the laws are in your favor now. | ||
| basstard
Advanced Member Username: basstard Post Number: 249 Registered: 3-2003 |
So it seems I'm in big trouble (again, lol). 1. I'll be flying with a bass I want to sell soon so an ATA case will be of no use to me in the long run - it'll cost almost a half of the entire bass's value, and I won't be able to sell it separately as the bass has an original shape (the Nexus in the Family Portrait thread). 2. Actually, I can't afford such a case anyway. 3. As the whole gig is organized in Chicago and we have all expenses covered and the tickets are bought by the organizers not by us I doubt if they remember about instrument insurance. All that, and I'm definitely not the luckiest guy on Earth. I'm feeling sick already. | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 2026 Registered: 3-2004 |
Jarek, In your position, I would be looking for one of two things. 1. Do you have any sort of allowance for expenses as part of your deal? If so, paying all costs associated with the transport of your instrument sounds like a valid expense. 2. If another instrument might do, then you should look into getting a rental of some sort delivered locally in Chicago. You're talking about a fairly sizable city with a historic musical scene, so pro level gear should be available. Maybe they'll pick up the cost of the rental? (Message edited by bsee on September 30, 2008) | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 2027 Registered: 3-2004 |
Hal, where do you get the idea that "the laws are in your favor"? The regulations for every airline that I have looked into say that the airline should never allow you to carry a guitar in the cabin without buying it a seat because it is oversized. Therefore, I would have to conclude that the laws are against us and only courtesy and reason are in our favor. Additionally, there are some routes where the red eye flights are extremely popular and almost universally full. It is good advice, though, to plan an itinerary that is lightly traveled if it is possible. With only a couple weeks until he travels, I would expect that it is too late for Devon to make any such changes. | ||
| byoung
Senior Member Username: byoung Post Number: 1088 Registered: 12-2004 |
Bob is correct here. You have no law protecting carryons. The flight attendant/gate attendant/TSA agent has absolute authority. If you check a bag, it is automatically insured for $2500. This is why you can fly with ATA approved cases. I would not fly with an expensive instrument. And the more I read Hal's posts, the more I think that he's trolling (Boeing made airbuses?!). Just for reference, the interiors of the planes are ordered/specified by the airlines. Bradley | ||
| rushfan
Junior Username: rushfan Post Number: 27 Registered: 9-2008 |
i use ata cases anywhere i go, because i want my bass to survive anything. but, if you go, i reccomend getting a steinberger or something like that, something compact.also, byoung is right, airbus is a german company, not a product of boeing. | ||
| hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke Post Number: 329 Registered: 6-2007 |
YES YOU DO! You can fly with your axe... TSA will support you! http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1235.shtm | ||
| hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke Post Number: 330 Registered: 6-2007 |
The bottom line here is, the size of your axe and what you use to carry it. If you walk on with an anvil case, they will tell you to check it in because its bulky. If you walk on with a guitar shaped bage or case, they will not have a problem in USA. People love music and they love to see musicians boarding their flights. It's a very old solution to a very old and know problem.... FEAR NOT! | ||
| juggernaught
Intermediate Member Username: juggernaught Post Number: 194 Registered: 3-2007 |
so far as my experience goes, the airlines have always let my bass on carry on in a gig bag. I did have a close call going from Norfolk to DFW as we were on a "regional" craft for that leg of the trip. The gate staff tried to pressure me to gate check it, but the airline staff let it on. I called AA ahead of time and they told me that their policy was to allow the bass since it wasn't greater than 4 ft long, but as experience showed me, the staff can make exceptions whenever they want. And this brings me to Frontier. They also have a policy regarding instruments, but it's vague: "if it fits". This opens me back up to the risk of being at the mercy of whoever is on staff. However, I was inclined to take a carry on except Greg's firsthand experience is telling me otherwise. I'm going to try to call the travel agent to have some sort of statement put on my ticket to give me arguing power. | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 2029 Registered: 3-2004 |
Hal, reading comprehension! The article you point to says the TSA will let your instrument through the security checkpoint. It also states in multiple places that it is up to the individual airlines to decide if they want to actually let your instrument into the cabin. The TSA has absolutely no power to convince an airline to take your guitar on board. The typical maximum size listed for a carry-on is a combined length plus width plus depth of between 45 and 55 inches. My Strat with no bag measures 39" long by 13" wide by 2" thick for a total of 44". If I don't put it in a bag, it would be legal to carry on Air Trans Airlines, the only one I have found with a 55" maximum size. If you wrap it in anything thicker than a garbage bag, though, it even exceeds that. Thus, everything you are pointing to says that no, you are not entitled to carry your guitar in the cabin. In short, you are giving dangerous advice to someone who might show up for a flight carrying an instrument in a gig bag. That person would be left with very few options, and probably no good ones, if their guitar were denied admittance to the cabin. If you're planning on flying with your guitar, contact the airline you will be using. Unless they can confirm in writing that your guitar will be allowed on board, there will always be a risk that you will have to gate check it. | ||
| hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke Post Number: 331 Registered: 6-2007 |
What are you smoking man, cause I want some of it... My fellow Alembican, the nature of traveling with a very delicate instrument, is completely acknowledged and very well understood by most commercial airlines. Surly a private business has the right to allow what ever they deem, and to serve who they wish, but one thing you failed to understand and support is: TSA does control what can, and what passingers can-not board on airlines. No Airline can allow you to board a plane items that are banned. (A moot-point) The definition of cargo (Musical Instruments) had already been written, and signed off with TSA. Thus under those guidelines, warrents protocol as such, to honor passengers with musical instuments and one carry-on. Sure, it's wise to call your airline first, (that's completely prudent) but believe me, there are musical institutions all over the world who'd had lobbied strongly so that we may feel at ease about this concern. I know my rights. The strongest point on this topic, is: The size and remaing overhead lockers availble for your guitar. However, if there's no room available, then out of safety reasons, Airline personnel would have and in some situations, must use descretion with any bag.... Therefore it pays to reserve an early flight or take flights that are least likely to be full. | ||
| hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke Post Number: 332 Registered: 6-2007 |
What are you smoking man, cause I want some of it... My fellow Alembican, the nature of traveling with a very delicate instrument, is completely acknowledged and very well understood by most commercial airlines. GOOD LUCK! Surly a private business has the right to allow what ever they deem, and to serve who they wish, but one thing you failed to understand and support is: TSA does control what can, and what passingers can-not board on airlines. No Airline can allow you to board a plane items that are banned. (A moot-point) The definition of cargo (Musical Instruments) had already been written, and signed off with TSA. Thus under those guidelines, warrents protocol as such, to honor passengers with musical instuments and one carry-on. Sure, it's wise to call your airline first, (that's completely prudent) but believe me, there are musical institutions all over the world who'd had lobbied strongly so that we may feel at ease about this concern. I know my rights. The strongest point on this topic, is: The size and remaing overhead lockers availble for your guitar. However, if there's no room available, then out of safety reasons, Airline personnel would have and in some situations, must use descretion with any bag.... Therefore it pays to reserve an early flight or take flights that are least likely to be full. | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 2031 Registered: 3-2004 |
That's fine Hal, keep looking through the rose colored glasses. We've both had our say on the matter and I don't think either one of us has any facts to add. I'll stick to the headless for travel, and you do what you're going to do. | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 430 Registered: 1-2005 |
Found this article with an interesting suggestion further down heard from Steve Bailey. hendixclarke, how often do you fly? I'd like to see you arguing about your "rights" with airport or airline staff these days. It's not like it was before 9/11. I fly as little as possible now, and I'm not even trying to carry an instrument. And with increased fuel costs, airlines are cutting down on the number of flights, so all the flights I've taken in the past couple of years have been full, whether from SFO to Japan or within the country, whether it's Sacramento CA to Portland or Seattle, or SFO to Boston or NYC. The best part is when you ask bsee what he's been smoking and yet you expect airline and airport staff to be all lovey dovey because it's music?!!! Then again, this is the internet, maybe you are really just a mellow guy who travels with his bass all the time and you only get argumentative in forums... Devon, maybe it would be good to have a cheap instrument to keep at your family's place - then when you get back to your Alembic the music will just fly under your fingers! There's something to be said with having to struggle with an instrument to get it to sing, though it's nice not to have to do that all the time! Best of luck to you whatever you decide to do! | ||
| hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke Post Number: 333 Registered: 6-2007 |
Whatever man... | ||
| hendixclarke
Advanced Member Username: hendixclarke Post Number: 334 Registered: 6-2007 |
You guy are half glass empty with this... By the way, my work requires much travel, and when I am away from home for weeks upon months, I take my axe with me for the conforts of home and leasure. I had even purchased guitars in other cities (an even bigger risk, some might think). I had nothing but pleasant experience on planes and I never was never stopped upon entering the foliages of multiple flights. Hey, if you want to buy in to 9/11 that's fine. Otherwise, enjoy your travels with whatever guitar that makes you happy bro for I am just sharing my experiences and we are all different, thank GOD! Peace- | ||
| hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 432 Registered: 1-2005 |
Now that's more like it! We have to push you sometimes to get you to make sense. It wasn't clear from your posts that you were speaking from experience. Now we know that you are offering an example of the system working. Do you really take your Series I (which is beautiful by the way) with you on business trips? By the way, here's an article about classical musicians from 2006 which offers a different perspective. (You might have to register with the New York Times to be able to view it) |
