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blackelan
Junior
Username: blackelan

Post Number: 48
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post

Is this a preproduction Alembic modified bass. All I got were these pics. Dont know the date or anything. Can anyone fill me in on what the hstory is behind these 70's modified basses with Alembic electronics.



(Message edited by davehouck on February 21, 2009)
blackelan
Junior
Username: blackelan

Post Number: 49
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post

Update. I was told this bass is a 1970.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 5903
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post

The pickups are from the mid-eighties. There should be a 4 digit date code on the electronics.
keavin
Senior Member
Username: keavin

Post Number: 1566
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 5:09 am:   Edit Post

When alembic was modifying guitars in the late 60's/early 70's with low impedence pickups/electronics, this particuler model was Gibsons answer to the beginning of this thing called alembic! http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=h0&oq=&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS231US231&q=les+paul+recording
hifiguy
Intermediate Member
Username: hifiguy

Post Number: 168
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post

That is one of the oddest, and in it's very odd way, coolest, basses I have ever seen. IIRC, this is a Les Paul Recording bass, which came from the Gib factory with low impedance pickups. Never saw Alembic pickups like that before. Bet it (1) sounds great, and (2) weighs a ton.
blackelan
Junior
Username: blackelan

Post Number: 50
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post

Its in Japan and it would cost just around 2grand with fees and everything to get it stateside. I found it intresting so I had to ask about it here.
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 534
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 7:22 am:   Edit Post

That's an interesting looking bass. I've got an early-'70s one. This is what they normally look like, with variations of course:

les paul

It's a great bass - very heavy, but surprisingly balances well and doesn't feel that heavy while strapped on. They can go from anywhere from $1000 to $2000-$3000 for some of the custom finishes (black, white). $2000 from Japan sounds low to me - make sure to ask about headstock/neck breaks!
willgunn
Junior
Username: willgunn

Post Number: 29
Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 8:24 am:   Edit Post

I can't offer much in the way of info on the "Alembic Modified" ones, but I CAN on the "Stock" versions of the short-scale, solid-body ones (there were 2 versions, and I'd owned both personally, prior to getting my first Alembic in '76). The ones as pictured are the 2nd. version (appearing around late '71, and actually known as the "Les Paul 'Triumph'" Bass), and are identical to the 1st. version (introduced in 1970) with the following exceptions: the 1st. version did not have a "tummy contour" (and was REALLY heavy!), the controls were rear-mounted, the neck (un-bound) featured "dot" inlays with a simpler "crown" peghead inlay, and the low/hi-Z transformer was located outboard the bass via a special cable. There you have it....more than you'd EVER care to know about these beasts!
georgie_boy
Senior Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 658
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post

So..were they any good??
I remember considering one when I bought my EB3.
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 535
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 9:13 am:   Edit Post

Right, the first one with rear-mounted electronics is often referred to as the "Recording," and the one like I have is called a "Triumph." There was also the "Signature." Here's a page with links to other pages with TONS of info.

I really like mine - lots of tonal options, though I tend to go with just one or two.

Looks like the modded bass in question is in Sapporo, Japan, and the description only gives the history of the Triumph bass and describe the sound of the bass: "the Alembic pickups are transparent and clear, with an effective equalizer, and the fat sound of the hollow mahogany body (??? - these aren't hollow!) is a good match."

(Message edited by hieronymous on February 22, 2009)
blackelan
Member
Username: blackelan

Post Number: 51
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post

I wish I could play it before I can buy it. If you E-mail the store they speak English and can answer more questions. If the electronics were 70's era Alembic I would be more intrested but I am going to pass.
hankster
Intermediate Member
Username: hankster

Post Number: 197
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 7:35 pm:   Edit Post

I have one of the slightly earlier Gib Les Pauls - low impedance pickups, but not so many switches. it does sound great, as long as you keep an impedance converter handy. They originally shipped with a branded cord with a built-in inline converter, which are now impossible to find. And it does weigh a ton, it is not hollow but a solid thick plank of mahogany (two glued together, I think, actually) - a full four hours with this kills my back, so I don't use it much. And I prefer the Alembic anyway. They only made the original les pauls for two years - 69 and 70 I think. The "recording" models appeared a couple of years later, along with a similar line of "recording" guitars.
hankster
Intermediate Member
Username: hankster

Post Number: 198
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 7:42 pm:   Edit Post

PS - ditto re: headstock breaks. Common for them to split down the middle if they receive an untimely blow, as mine did. Luthier did a fantastic repair job but the small mother of pearl dot for the "i" in Gibson was missing, and didn't get replaced. So mine is one of the perhaps not-so-rare "dotless i" Gib Les Paul basses.

R.

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