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jschom
Junior
Username: jschom

Post Number: 13
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post

I find the tones I can get from Epic with filter and Q switch are exactly what I need when playing live. The problem I run into is when a particular song goes from the 350hz setting to the 6k setting from one measure to another and I am not able to dial the change in without missing notes. What I need is a method of going from one frequency to another with a footswitch. Does anyone know if there is an aftermarket pedal that simulates the Alembic filter at the 350hz setting?
byoung
Senior Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 1180
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post

A superfilter (the superfilter does *way* more stuff than the filter in your Epic) with an ABY switch in front:

E.g.:

route one channel of the ABY switch through channel A of the superfilter, set to 350 Hz
route the other through the B channel, set to 6KHz

Leave the filter on the bass open, and the Q switch off.

If that doesn't make sense, I'd be happy to try to explain it differently.

Bradley
jschom
Junior
Username: jschom

Post Number: 14
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 5:26 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for the reply Bradley! Ideally, I would love to have the set up you are talking about. Economically, I'm afraid I will have to figure something else out. Unless of course, someone out there has a smokin' deal on a used one.:-) Has anyone had any experience with any of the sansamp bass driver DI's? Would something like that work for this application? I've noticed alot of the pros have them in their gear listings. Thanks for your help!...Joel
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3557
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post

Bradley:

Interesting idea. How do you wire up the output of the SF-2? Can you set it in mono, but still use Channels A & B independently?

Bill, tgo
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7627
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post

I'm thinking it would have to be stereo mode with a Y cord joining the outputs of both channels.
byoung
Senior Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 1182
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post

I think that most of the ABY boxes out there would take the mono signal from an instrument, route it to either channel A, B or Both, and then Y them back together.

So, you'd use it as a two channel device (stereo just seems like the wrong term here), and the ABY should be able to merge the signal back together.

Bradley
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3564
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post

Bradley:

Are you suggesting an ABY box that handles both the input and output of the SF-2 simultaneously? I don't think I've ever seen such a beast. Or is there something here I'm not getting?

Bill, tgo
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7643
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post

If I recall correctly, a previous discussion suggested that a switch on the output side was not a good idea.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7644
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post

Here is the previous discussion. I wasn't recalling entirely correctly.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7645
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post

And there's this thread which I was probably thinking of as well. Not entirely on point, but both may be worth review.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7646
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post

And in this thread Bill explains his F-2B setup. Of course, the F-2B has a mono output, so the issue of using a "Y" on the output doesn't come up.
hieronymous
Senior Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 536
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 8:40 pm:   Edit Post

All the ABY boxes that I've come across only do one side of the job - you can split a signal but can't re-integrate it on the other end. Maybe an AB box plus a mixer would be more appropriate? Split the signal, both go back into the mixer which will accept either signal (or both!)
oujeebass
Intermediate Member
Username: oujeebass

Post Number: 145
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 8:18 am:   Edit Post

You could use the Morley blender pedal and it would work great. This way it would variable.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3569
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:23 am:   Edit Post

Wade:

The Morley pedal you mentioned looks to be an effects loop that you can blend with the dry signal. Actually a pretty cool idea, but I don't see how it would be applicable to the above situation where one is trying to have the choice of channel A or B in the SF-2, but have them both output to the same source.

Bill, tgo
oujeebass
Intermediate Member
Username: oujeebass

Post Number: 146
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post

I figured you could pan between the channels of the SF2. You would go direct through one channel,and loop through the other. No?
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3574
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post

Wade:

That might work in a similar way to the ABY switch, but you still have the same summing problem at the back end of the SF-2. If the SF-2 is set in stereo mode so that the two input channels are separate, then the outputs are separate too. Essentially that the SF-2 needs to be set up as a stereo in and mono out.

Bill, tgo
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7661
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 2:40 pm:   Edit Post

Bill, would this work?

Epic > AB splitter > chs 1 & 2 SF-2 > chs 1 & 2 F-2B w/ mono out.

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