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811952
Junior
Username: 811952

Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:50 am:   Edit Post

Who is the guy with the lovely doubleneck 8+4 from the SuperWound string ads of the late '70s? I'm guessing there is a good story behind that bass..
zappahead
Junior
Username: zappahead

Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post

Im not sure who the guy is, but the same or similar bass has been on gbase.com forever. If you got 12k burning a hole in your pocket you could round out the collection. Heres a good link to take a peek at some pics:

http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=315665
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 237
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:27 am:   Edit Post

That's definitely the legendary "John Judge" bass. I had a long discussion with Mica about it once.
Although John Judge may have disappeard into obscurity, the bass lives on! I'm guessing that's how it's going to be with my custom Alembics once I'm gone (I don't plan to ever sell them).

Custom Alembics leave their own Legacy.

Rami

bishopqdog
Junior
Username: bishopqdog

Post Number: 44
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post

Well said, Rami :-)
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 240
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post

Isn't it the ultimate goal to have your name live on? Legend has it that John Judge only owned this Bass for 3 or 4 years before setting it free into the world. Like a child that has grown up, it is now 25 years old, it has been cared for by numerous owners, travelled many miles and above all, treated with the ultimate respect befitting an Alembic masterpiece.
Throughout the years, it has always carried the name of it's father, who may or may not be reunited with it some day.

I wonder who John Judge is (or was). I admire and respect his legacy in this Bass.
His name is synonymous with one of the MOST exotic Alembic creations ever, and lives on because of it.

I hope that someday when people mention my name, there's a super exotic Alembic Bass associated with it too.

Rami
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 241
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 3:28 pm:   Edit Post

Here he is folks, the man himself!

John Judge
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 242
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 3:35 pm:   Edit Post

Notice in the ad, they say, "Whether you own a $5000.00 double neck custom Alembic bass like that of John Judge.....".

I'm guessing that having something like that built today would cost just a little bit more!!!


Rami
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 694
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 3:36 pm:   Edit Post

He-he-he
I hav ejust recently looked at that same ad in an old Guitarplayer! THat moment I even didn't realize what it was an Alembic. Leave alone that I knew what Alembic was or did.

BTW: Rami in my humble opinion your name is already linked with one of the most remarkable achievements in Alembic that I could think of: the "evil Twins"


Paul the bad one
dela217
Advanced Member
Username: dela217

Post Number: 207
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 3:41 pm:   Edit Post

I saw that same ad, when that ad was new. I remember thinking that it looked like a Series 1 bass, but where are the hum cancellers?? Anybody know? Are they in the body? Are those pups not the single coil I thought they were? Someone must know!
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 243
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a better picture,

John Judge 1

John Judge 2
valvil
Moderator
Username: valvil

Post Number: 232
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post

You got it Michael,

the dummy humcancelers are indeed in the body.

Valentino
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 244
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post

Check out the inlays!


Dragon
Dragon

Dragon's body
6th-8th frets

Dragon's tail
3rd-5th frets

Captured Princess
1st fret

The Warriors to the rescue!
12th-22nd frets



Truly magnificent!

(Message edited by rami on November 01, 2003)
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 245
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post

More pictures I managed to find;

front
back
backplate
heads
side LEDs
bigredbass
Intermediate Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 168
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post

I believe the inestimable Mr. Judge came to a choice that led to his sad parting with this truly amazing instrument. . . . he couldn't afford the chiropractor and all those strings !

If anyone doesn't 'get it' when it comes to ALEMBIC, all they need do is look at these photos. This bass is almost supernatural, virtually other-worldly, surely off-world in origin. I have never been more proud to be a part of a tradition of engineering and artistry.

Doesn't it amaze you though, that some people find the most horrid spots for the strap buttons?
I always wonder 'what were they thinking' when I see the neck button in the laminations in the heel. Oh well . . . .

J o e y
xlrogue6
Junior
Username: xlrogue6

Post Number: 32
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post

One thing the photos don't really show is that the nipples on the Princess have LED's behind them--as if the inlay itself wasn't lurid enough!
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 247
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 9:05 am:   Edit Post

Actually Kent,

In a discussion I had with Mica, she told me that that was the original design, but was scrapped because it was just too complicated. So they never lit the Princess's nipples - Darn!

Rami
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1203
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 9:26 am:   Edit Post

It wasn't complication (we've been putting LEDs on the fron tof the fingerboard for years), it was... how shall I put this... a matter of taste.
smokin_dave
Member
Username: smokin_dave

Post Number: 71
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 9:54 am:   Edit Post

Stop it,you guy's are killing me.I can see the custom orders taking on a new twist right now.
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 248
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post

Oops!

Sorry Mica, my memory isn't what it used to be.

At least I got part of it right!
xlrogue6
Junior
Username: xlrogue6

Post Number: 33
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post

Ooops here too--another sad case of CRS syndrome.
rami
Advanced Member
Username: rami

Post Number: 250
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post

I just couldn't let this thread slip away!
jake
Junior
Username: jake

Post Number: 41
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 2:11 pm:   Edit Post

ladies and gentlemen, it appears the same bass is for sale....http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=315665
zappahead
Junior
Username: zappahead

Post Number: 50
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 2:41 pm:   Edit Post

Dumb question: Who is John Judge?

bracheen
New
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 4:48 pm:   Edit Post

I was wondering that myself. I tried a internet search and found some politicians but nothing related to music.
steveo
New
Username: steveo

Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post

Something to ponder, what would we rather own, this gorgeous piece of art, or a 2001 Chevy Cavalier that would be crushed into scrap metal in a few years. Twelve large would be cheap, considering it could bring 20 a few years hence!

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