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hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 597
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 9:45 pm:   Edit Post

Stanley backgrounds Rap Hip Hop?

I guess he needs the money...
I an in tears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucgbaeKBbqE
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 598
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 9:52 pm:   Edit Post

I am in tears if this is where my hero ends up...
zezozeceglutz
Junior
Username: zezozeceglutz

Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post

It was a benefit show and he looks to have had fun.

You can't fault an artist for giving back, raising money, and having fun all at once. Good for/on him!
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2210
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 4:19 am:   Edit Post

you're forgetting that stanley featured rap / hip hop on his album 1,2, to the bass - the title track was rapped by Q-tip (bet that's not his real name).
I wonder why you're in tears, just because your hero chooses to stay in work. Diversifying is what has made him great.

Graeme

(Message edited by jacko on April 27, 2009)
chalie_holmes
Junior
Username: chalie_holmes

Post Number: 39
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 5:11 am:   Edit Post

Don't forget Stanley's rap cover of Springsteen's "Born In the USA"
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 599
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 6:17 am:   Edit Post

It was a tongue and cheek fun. Stanley can play anywhere, and the music will still sound good. It was just strange at first glance seeing him playing along with sampled prerecorded music.

I love Chuck D's Public Enemy "Fight-The-Power" I just wished it was done completely live!

Near the end of the video, Stanley got raw and funky. That was the best part of the tape. That was Public Enemy with Stanley Clarke. He turned the tables around, just like that, and made the song more funky!

The video got better towards the end...
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 600
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post

The Late and Great Gregory Hines and Stan...

"Blues-Tap"

That's the Alembic Sound!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzV3erpow4
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 2322
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 7:47 am:   Edit Post

Things that make you go "hmmmmm".

OO
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 601
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 7:58 am:   Edit Post

I couldn't had said it better Olie... you nailed it.

Pop (Samples), Hip Hop(Samples), Rap(Samples), no matter what it is... Real talent will always be bolder, brighter, cleaner, and recognized.

Nothing please me more than a real live band!
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2185
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post

As one of the comments on YouTube says, "Stanley wrote the soundtrack on the film/movie "Boyz n the Hood"."
byoung
Senior Member
Username: byoung

Post Number: 1209
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post

Hey, that video has nothing on this:

Born in the USA
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 602
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post

Stan is just too talented to play out of his league. People who know his music, expect more. Once you give people your best, they expect nothing less.

Music is no different than any product you buy. When you buy something of quality, and then the next day, its cut with additives and sold at a higher cost, you sacrifice a loyal fan base to gain only fad consumers.

Its very difficult to diversity great talent, to a fad level of music; especially if people see you as a single artist.

Say the word: "Prince", "Santana", "Joe Satriani", "Robert Cray" their music it consistent to the genera.

Herbie Hancock did "Rockit" and it was a successful Hip-Hop cut but for those people who would expect more of this kind of music from Herbie, would be hugely disappointed because he's a Jazz man.

As for Stanley, he's in that circle of distinguished musicians as well, so maybe he should just stick to playing quality music (which he is now... Victor and Markus keeping him on the one :-) for the 80's was a bad trip).

If you asked me, there was nothing wrong with RETURN TO FOREVER, in the first place.
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2211
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 1:09 am:   Edit Post

"maybe he should just stick to playing quality music".

hal. I'm surprised and somewhat shocked you've come out with this statement. Just because you don't like the hip hop music Stanley played doesn't mean it's any lower quality than any other music he's made.
Stanley is the calibre of player that can pick and choose what he wants to be involved with and you can guarantee that he has put his best efforts into everything he's ever played. Are you saying you're only a fan of a certain style of Stanley Clarke music? I for one can appreciate all the music he has played. Some of it rarely hits my turntable as it's maybe not my favourite but I'd certainly never dismiss it as lower quality as you seem to have.

Graeme
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2186
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 5:23 am:   Edit Post

We have a saying in Dutch: "The bow cannot always be drawn."
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 603
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 7:19 am:   Edit Post

My Father is a Jazz purist, and thinks all jazz should be played acoustically first, then electrified.
811952
Senior Member
Username: 811952

Post Number: 1652
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post

About 3:50 into that clip you can see the other bass pretty clearly. Is that one of those old Modulus Graphite headless basses?

John
dfung60
Advanced Member
Username: dfung60

Post Number: 381
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 5:49 pm:   Edit Post

John -

I think the other bass in this video is a late model Steinberger Synapse bass. A own a couple of those old Modulus Flight Monocoque basses and the shape of the body and end of the neck are pretty distinctively shaped. Also the Flight bass has regular bass tuners mounted on the body end, but this bass doesn't look like it has that.

David Fung
pauldo
Intermediate Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 120
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 6:20 pm:   Edit Post

I am confused, there seems to be a negative underlying tone here. Stan is the Man - he can play anything and make it groove (anyone ever hear him play with Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood in the New Barbarians?).

What's the problem with P.E.?

They are a well respected group, just because one of their front men decides to do a 'reality' tv shows does not take away from their legacy.
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2187
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 1:09 am:   Edit Post

Perhaps I should add the English near equivalent of that Dutch saying: "All work and no play make Jack a dull boy."
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2212
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 1:15 am:   Edit Post

I was wondering Adriaan ;-). The translation makes much more sense and you make a very good point. Getting up to play an unusual (for him) genre must be like a breath of fresh air to Stanley sometimes. I bet he gets fed up to the teeth playing School days all the time. In fact, when I saw him in london a couple of years ago he only played a couple of bars of Schooldays before launching into something else. Disappointing for me (and Jazzy and Mike) but Stanley was able to slot something different into his set.

Graeme
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 801
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 5:59 am:   Edit Post

Look when you are as famous as Stanley Clarke you can play what you want and I agree with jacko, I bet his Alembic can play 'School days' on it's own.
It's all about variety, try something different but but your own style into it..I once played in a ceilidh band and slapped a solo in it, the other guys were shocked as there regular bass player just played the usual lines..okay maybe not in context to the style but it was fun.
The world would be a boring place if there was no variety.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 681
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 9:50 am:   Edit Post

My live performances had never required the support of a onstage DJ.

Maybe, that's what I'ved been missing for the past 40 years...

:-)
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 818
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post

hendixclarke..you should try it..it is no different than practicing to a drum machine, I did it once and it was fun, the DJ was very good at the mixing and scratching..I wouldn't do it all the time but as a one off it was, as I said fun and different.
hendixclarke
Senior Member
Username: hendixclarke

Post Number: 682
Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post

Sounds like a lot of fun... I get it now.

That was a very good point.

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