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fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 7:14 am:   Edit Post

Hello
I'm new here. I'm from Portugal. I've bought an Elan 5 (picture), but the truss road cover is removed. So I don't know the serial. But in the electronics cavity are write this: 92H7258. Is this the serial?
Can you tell me more about this bass? The screws in the pickups, the knobs don't seem originals. Are they?
And the bass don't have strap knobs, but two metalic pieces. It seems that will be working good with the strapp lock system. Please, I'll apreciate if you can help me.
Thank you in advance.elan picture 2
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 655
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 7:28 am:   Edit Post

Hello Fernando,
Welcome to the club!
The serial is also stamped as you have seen in the cavity and it certainly sounds like a good serial number to me. Completed in 1992, instrument number 7258. To have Alembic do a lookup of the serial number you may post a request in the Serial Number / History Request area. It may take some time for the lookup so please be patient as they are quite busy at the mothership.

In regard to screws, pickups and knobs... please take some close-up pictures of the areas, also try to include the electronics cavity and many here will most likely make some good educated guesses.

Play it Healthy!
Art
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 877
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 8:09 am:   Edit Post

Awesome bass, congrats!

Knobs: Click here
Pickups: Click here

Does the bass heve recessed straplocks?
If it has, you'll have to fill the holes if you want to use normal strapholders (or Schaller locks)
IMHO best leave it as is (if it has the recessed locks)
gregduboc
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Username: gregduboc

Post Number: 139
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 8:10 am:   Edit Post

Bem vindo Fernando!
Just follow Art's advices, and you will find out a lot of stuff. Go down to the Showcase thread and post some nice pictures of your bass. In this club, we all love pictures. Well, at least I do...!
With the close-ups, we can all help you with your questions.

Greg
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 2
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post

Hi
Many thanks, you're great! One of these days I'll take some pictures.
For now, here are the close-ups.
No doubt, something happened with the pickup fixation system.
In the neck pickup cavity there are
only two springs like the one in the picture.
In the bridge cavity, no springs and only a sponge (picture).
The screws are like you can see
in the picture and also the knobs
seem different from originals.
The curiousity is the owner replaced the brass with the serial by a wooden lid
in the truss road cavity, with an pearl inlay "N".
Also is instaled a thumb rest between
the two pickups, also with a retangle pearl inlay. A job well done, but not original
in the Elan bass, (but maybe done by
Alembic guys?). The strap knobs cavity
maybe goes well with locks by Jim Dunlop
or others.
I'm using an FX-1 preamp for 12 years,
but this is my first Alembic bass.
Have a nice weekend. Regards
Thank you for all
neck pickup1

bridge pickup2

screws

thumb

knobs

(Message edited by fernandobicho on May 07, 2009)

(Message edited by fernandobicho on May 07, 2009)
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3790
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 1:24 pm:   Edit Post

Fernando:

Welcome to the club and congrats on a beautiful bass. Your pickup screws aren't installed correctly. Alembic uses a brilliantly simple system. Two screws are supposed to be UNDER the pickup, (the entire screw, head and all), at opposite corners. The other two screws then go in OVER the pickup at the two other opposite corners. When properly set up, you should only see two screw heads on top of the pickup, not four. To adjust pickup height, you first loosen the two screws that are on top of the pickup, Then, using a narrow blade screwdriver that can fit through the screw holes, you adjust the two screws that are under the pickup to attain the desired height. Then you tighten the two screws above the pickup to lock it down in place. It's hard to tell from your pics, but it appears that some of your pickup screws may be longer than others. If this is the case, the shorter screws go under the pickup, and the longer screws are for the top of the pickup. I hope this helps.

Bill, the guitar one
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 2347
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post

Welcome Fernando, nice bass.
I see Bill beat me to the pick-up screws. You are correct about the knobs not being the original.

OO
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 3
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post

I've understood that screws explanation. I have 6 short screws and 2 long screws....!!! I hope Alembic people sells me the correct parts! Thanks for your help!
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8006
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 3:55 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Fernando, welcome to the board! That's a very nice Elan!!

There should be no springs. They will not be needed once the correct screws are installed properly.

You can order a new truss rod cover from Alembic. And has been mentioned above, you can get the screw and knobs from Alembic as well.

Sometimes non-Alembic knobs are an indication that the electronics have been replaced; so it would be a good idea to check the control cavity to make sure it's all original.
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 656
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 5:11 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Fernando,
Here is the Parts page with the screws and knobs in the Alembic store.
Art
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 878
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 8:31 pm:   Edit Post

Use 4 short screws for the neck pickup ;-)
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post

Hi
Thank you for your so much important help. You're
fantastic!
Well... These pictures show the electronics and the pots without the knobs.
It seems to be all original... Don't you think?
Are those the standard electronics in Elan bass?
And that two blue things in the right side are what for?
Thanks. Regards, Fernando

electronics1

electronics2

electronics3

electronics4

electronics5

electronics6
rraymond
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Username: rraymond

Post Number: 356
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 8:04 pm:   Edit Post

Wow! Not only is the outside of that bass beautiful, but so is the inside. That control cavity is amazing. BTW - it's original inside.

Congrats on a winner - inside and out!
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 879
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 8:26 pm:   Edit Post

The blue thingys are gain controls for your pickups Click here
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 6
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 3:34 am:   Edit Post

Thanks, guys!
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 7
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 6:51 am:   Edit Post

Well, my research about my Elan 5 is not in the end :-(
You see the pots? They're Alembic. But the knobs don't seems to be original. BUT, I saw in the parts page: the "collet" and "hat" knobs, don't fit in the pots of this bass. The collect knobs are the same in the F-1X preamp (I have one).
So, someone know whant kind of pots are these? And where can I get the origal knobs for them?
Thank you. Regards
lembic76450
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Username: lembic76450

Post Number: 150
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:02 am:   Edit Post

I think you should wait until Mica makes a comment here. The control cavity is far to neat for someone to have changed those pots. The collet knobs come in 2 sizes. Check the "Store" at Alembic.com. Good luck, Beautiful Bass by the way.
Ken

[moderator edit: spelling]

(Message edited by davehouck on May 10, 2009)
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8020
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post

According to the parts page, the two different shaft sizes are 1/4" and 1/8".

I'm guessing you've already figured out how to remove collet knobs, but just in case it might be helpful, there are instructions here.
lembic76450
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Username: lembic76450

Post Number: 151
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post

Thanks, Dave.
I guess I was still half asleep
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8026
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post

Hee hee! I don't normally correct spelling errors except when the error changes the meaning of the text, but that one was needed.
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 8
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post

Hum... I think maybe the "hat knobs" 1/4" fit in those pots.
But I'm a bit confuse because I saw different Elan basses with both hat and collet. I'll wait for Mica's coments.
Thank you. Cheers
oneAtebay
oneHere
artswork99
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Username: artswork99

Post Number: 665
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 1:27 pm:   Edit Post

Fernando,
I believe that you may be able to use either knob as long as the shaft diameter is known. A collet knob has a more secure locking system where it uses a sleeve and the hat knobs use set screws.

If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll be corrected :-)
Art
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 881
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 1:35 pm:   Edit Post

I love that last pic! :-)

Go with the knobs you like best, 1/4 will fit ;-)
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 9
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 6:55 am:   Edit Post

Hi
I've found the F-1X preamp volume knob fit well in my Elan. It's 1/4 colect knob. I've done an order from Alembic, and I'm waiting for the answer. Why take so long to say something? :-(
I thank you all your coments. You're great!
Thank you
fernandobicho
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Username: fernandobicho

Post Number: 10
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 2:16 am:   Edit Post

Hello
In my research I've found the kobs in my Elan are the same in Smith basses. Just for curiosity.
thank you ! :-)smith knobs

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