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mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 6383
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post

I've been hard at work sorting through over 40,000 (!) images I've collected of Alembic basses and guitars over the past few years. I've got enough to make a rockin' website update. I'd love it if anyone would check out this test page:

http://www.alembic.com/prod/essencetest.html

and let me know if you note any problems or if it looks fine in your browser. What would be especially helpful is for you to tell me the platform (windows/mac/solaris/linux), and the browser you're using (including version number).

If everything goes as well as I'm hoping, I'll start peeling out these new pages.

Thanks for your help!
robertodiazj
Junior
Username: robertodiazj

Post Number: 11
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post

Well the only problem I noted is the a broken link to DET_K_vermilion.jpg. Other than that there is nohting wrong. I used Windows XP Professional and Firefox 3.0.14. It looks great.

(Message edited by robertodiazj on September 10, 2009)
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1378
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post

Looks good to me. Being able to see actual examples of the woods on basses is great. I like it much better than what you have now.

I use Windows XP and Firefox 3.5.2

Keith
senmen
Senior Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 911
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post

Mica,
looks perfect on my Mac using Safari 4.0.3.
Great!!!

Oliver (Spyderman)
neyman
Member
Username: neyman

Post Number: 83
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post

I noticed the broken link on the Vermillion as well. Looks great!

Windows XP Pro, Opera 9.51
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 6384
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:07 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for the feedback! I fixed the broken link for the Vermilion sample.

I wish I had as many examples of each model, but the same format will be on all the pages, even if there's only half a dozen. As we make more instruments, I'll just add the images as we go.
sonicus
Advanced Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 332
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Mica.
Every thing works great and looks swell using Mac OS 10.4.11
with the Safari 4.0.3 browser.

Wolf
tdukes
Intermediate Member
Username: tdukes

Post Number: 160
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:13 pm:   Edit Post

Looks great on Firefox 3.5 on Redhat 3.4.6-8.

Todd.
tom_z
Senior Member
Username: tom_z

Post Number: 596
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post

Looks great Mica - and scales well to multiple size browser windows. Mac OSX - 10.5.8/Firefox 3.5.3 and Safari 4.0.3.
artswork99
Senior Member
Username: artswork99

Post Number: 836
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Mica,

XP Professional and IE 8. Looks good!

Have you considered a sized pop-up for the examples instead of taking the entire browser window to the graphic? You could then do a next >> and << previous to go through the examples. Just a thought for ease of navigating.

Art
pace
Senior Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 424
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post

The pickup on the Burl Amboyna Essence looks bigger than the others, and the pickups on the black one look slanted..... Must be something with my browser. :-) Other than that, everything looks A-OK :-)
jseitang
Advanced Member
Username: jseitang

Post Number: 277
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:33 pm:   Edit Post

lookin good mica.
lmiwa
Advanced Member
Username: lmiwa

Post Number: 256
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post

Love the wood samples on the actual instrument!

Looks fine on Windows XP Pro 2002 SP3 using both IE 7.0.5730.13 and Firefox 3.5.2
artswork99
Senior Member
Username: artswork99

Post Number: 837
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post

Mica,

In a smaller browser window the text for the Essence is not enclosed in a table and therefore goes to underneath the initial picture. You can experience this by taking the browser off of "maximize" and manually decrease the window size... the text eventually makes the drop underneath.

Art
xlrogue6
Intermediate Member
Username: xlrogue6

Post Number: 153
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 2:00 pm:   Edit Post

Looks great Mica--and it even works on Windows ME/Firefox 2.0/pokey pokey dialup! Should induce a wave of Incurable Alembic Lust when it goes sitewide.
malthumb
Senior Member
Username: malthumb

Post Number: 461
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 2:11 pm:   Edit Post

Looks great on PC with Firefox 3.5.2

I'll try my iMac / Safari a little later. L-O-V-E the new layout.

BTW - Mica, when I go to rehearsal tonight, I'll be taking a double bag with a Series II and a Sabre. Thanks again!!
apdavis
Member
Username: apdavis

Post Number: 92
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post

What? No kingwood?

Looks shiney. MSexplorer ver.7
kenbass4
Advanced Member
Username: kenbass4

Post Number: 361
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post

Looks good, Windows XP Professional, Internet Exploder 7...
afrobeat_fool
Member
Username: afrobeat_fool

Post Number: 97
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 4:29 pm:   Edit Post

Looks great! Macbook/ Firefox 3.5 I especially like the Amboyna Burl. I e-mailed Edwin's wife. Thanks for the tip, Mica!
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1653
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post

I agree with Art, it would be good to open one picture and then scroll through the remaining pictures using a left and right scroll arrow rather than have to go back to the index page for every photograph. Just makes browsing more productive.

Mac OSX 10.5.8, Safari Browser 4.0.3

Jazzyvee
bassjigga
Advanced Member
Username: bassjigga

Post Number: 366
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post

you forgot burl and spalted maple!
jet_powers
Senior Member
Username: jet_powers

Post Number: 470
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 4:47 pm:   Edit Post

I can't look at it too long without wanting a new one! Sure does look good using windows XP and Explorer 8 though....
lembic76450
Intermediate Member
Username: lembic76450

Post Number: 166
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post

Mica,

XP Home and Explorer 7......

Looks great
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8712
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 4:53 pm:   Edit Post

Mike Pace; that's a common problem with the particular display that you are using.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 6385
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 5:08 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks so much for all the great testing everyone. There's nothing like the real thing when it comes to seeing if your webpages break. I appreciate the efforts.

I didn't forget Spalted Maple, David, you just haven't ordered yours yet! I actually think I've got a Burl Maple example that's almost done. Like I said, I'll be adding new flavors as new instruments are completed.
jedisan
Member
Username: jedisan

Post Number: 99
Registered: 3-2008
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 5:28 pm:   Edit Post

Well, it looks like I am the only Vista guy so far... all looks fantastic, great job Mica!

Vista Ultimate, IE8
oddmetersam
Junior
Username: oddmetersam

Post Number: 22
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 6:21 pm:   Edit Post

I've got Vista, too, and Firefox 3.0.14. It looks incredible. Of course, you realize once you start putting examples of every wood for every bass model we'll all be paralyzed trying to figure out what to get...especially if you start showing all the neck wood laminating possibilities.
lidon2001
Senior Member
Username: lidon2001

Post Number: 422
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 6:38 pm:   Edit Post

Am I the only one who noticed the quilted "meple"?

Corrected shortly before my post...

Vista and IE8 - my amboyna looks great as always. Ruby red looking good too. Bocate BTC is rather intriguing.

T

(Message edited by lidon2001 on September 10, 2009)
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 1097
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 7:08 pm:   Edit Post

I especially like that you chose my black slanted 5 for the page!
Maybe the new Excel 10 will make it to that page for the black one?
honninscrave
New
Username: honninscrave

Post Number: 9
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post

Looks perfect from here...

XP Pro and Chrome 2.0.172.43
bassjigga
Advanced Member
Username: bassjigga

Post Number: 367
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post

i just realized they are all essences. so are you going to do this with all the different models?

spalted maple is nice, but i still have 2 more boards of that ebony we used on my europa ;)
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 6386
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, the idea is that each model page will show an actual example in as many woods as I have decent images for. Even slight variations like Ton's Amboyna Burl and Danny's Black Essence are OK to get a general idea of how the different woods and finishes look on each body shape.

I saw the Quilted Meple as soon as I checked the page for the Vermilion link and fixed it - I thought before anyone else had noticed!
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2422
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post

It looks nice to me on the most current versions of Firefox, IE and Safari on an XP platform. I've only looked at it on my laptop at 1680x1050, but it doesn't seem there would be any need to look at it on larger screens as it all fits quite well in this space. That said, there are two things that stand out to me as "missing".

First, Alembic has always described their necks and string spacing based upon neck width at nut and 24th fret. Many others in the industry talk about string spacing at the bridge, including most bassists on at least one internet forum. I really wish Alembic would publish these numbers as a part of the instrument description.

Second, there doesn't appear to be any link to options for the instrument. That seems like it has to be on the page somewhere prominent. A link to the configurator with the correct model plugged in would be a nice touch, but I've always wished there was a bit more description of some of the options.

While not what I would consider "missing", it might also be nice to link to a few pics of whole custom basses, or at least any FC Essences that may exist. Completed and fully specified instruments might provide some nice ideas for buyers who would otherwise skip an option that they would later regret.

In terms of design, the page gets awfully long if you narrow your browser window. I might set a minimum width so that you don't end up with more than three rows of examples, four at the most. I might set up a separate page with the "extra" samples rather than presenting quite so many right there up front. I do think it's really cool that you're using actual bass pics for the examples rather than mock-ups. Current screen resolution stats say that at least 93% of users are at 1024x768 or larger with almost no one below 800x600. Maybe this doesn't matter as most people won't scrunch their browser width so much if they don't have to, but the specs can work their way pretty far down the page. Maybe some navigation above the fold in the form of tags to the examples and specs might be in order?

Also, I understand that almost everyone will display an item for sale with a few options on it, but I would prefer that large primary pic to be at least the stock woods and configuration rather than something with over $1000 in upgrades on it. That's just personal preference - it always bothers me a little when a car dealer runs an ad for a $20K vehicle and then small prints a price as shown of $10K higher.
bassjigga
Advanced Member
Username: bassjigga

Post Number: 368
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 8:54 pm:   Edit Post

Wow that will be really cool! Oh and btw, the birds-eye maple essence is my bass. Cool!
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1288
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post

Looks fine in Vista HOME premium/IntExp8.

THAT's exactly the kind of update the 'catalog' side of the website needs. My two cents would be to show along with that 4str to the left of the lowdown on the Essence a five and a six mentioned in the accompanying specs below.
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1042
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 2:43 am:   Edit Post

Looks great on this side of the pond using WXP
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2416
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 3:00 am:   Edit Post

Looks fine to me further up the coast on this side of the pond also using WXP;-)

As an aside, having read through Bob's post, I agree that a good development would be a link to the custom quote generator. However, it would be nice if the quote generator was updated to cover all possible combinations. For example, i'm interested to know how much a 5 string dragons wing and 5 string exploiter style body would cost built as a signature deluxe.

Graeme

p.s. i love the mutant maple with the purpleheart fingerboard ;-)

(Message edited by jacko on September 11, 2009)

(Message edited by jacko on September 11, 2009)
cje
Junior
Username: cje

Post Number: 26
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 7:11 am:   Edit Post

Mica, along with this update, have you considered providing sound samples in any capacity? I know there are so many non-Alembic related variables that contribute to the sound of an instrument (and maybe that's why you don't post any), but maybe something basic as a starting point, just to compare the different electronics options for basses/guitars?
artswork99
Senior Member
Username: artswork99

Post Number: 840
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 7:20 am:   Edit Post

I've become acquainted with the bass player doing the tracks for the Lakland audio samples. The idea shows the use of different string sets and alternating pick-ups for each model. Obviously not as many sound choices as an Alembic may present, but certainly an interesting idea and a place to start.
hifiguy
Intermediate Member
Username: hifiguy

Post Number: 190
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post

Looks great at work on IE, Mica, and I second Graeme's thoughts.
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 433
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post

Perfect with Mozilla firefox, IE8 with 1440/900 resolution, and safari on .... Iphone ;o)

(Message edited by pierreyves on September 11, 2009)
crobbins
Senior Member
Username: crobbins

Post Number: 466
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post

Works good on my old Dell pc, XP, windows.. :-)
enzo
Intermediate Member
Username: enzo

Post Number: 128
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post

Everything ok with IE 7 and XP pro.
hg30904
Member
Username: hg30904

Post Number: 54
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post

Good with Windows 7 and IE 8
mario_farufyno
Advanced Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 278
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 6:22 pm:   Edit Post

It worked great on my PC/Windows XP/Firefox 3.5.3/3Mb conection...
mario_farufyno
Advanced Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 279
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 6:44 pm:   Edit Post

Mica, would be great to see not just all wood options but also some diferent headstock shape and number of strings options since this can really change how your Basses will look.

I love the Essence body shape most and dream to order one 6 string some day, and I think many people would be glad to foresee how their "dream bass" could look (not just the top wood but the entire shape). Thanks...
rjmsteel
New
Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 6
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post

Looks great can`t wait to see on the other models... balance of website. Works fine in Safari and all links work for me.
thebass
Advanced Member
Username: thebass

Post Number: 262
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post

Didn't notice any errors with Google Chrome 3 on Windows XP.
alembickoa
Member
Username: alembickoa

Post Number: 73
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post

I am on the late freight, Mica...like that's a stretch...but I am lovin' this. Bob made some good suggestions, and I bet if I try real hard I can use up all of your bandwidth. Great stuff.
joram
Member
Username: joram

Post Number: 58
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post

It's good in linux too: Ubuntu with both ff 3 and 3.5 works fine.
briant
Advanced Member
Username: briant

Post Number: 369
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 2:28 am:   Edit Post

So inquiring minds want to know. When does the new site go live?
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2430
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 2:52 am:   Edit Post

I'm thinking it could be quite some time if Mica's only just built the test page. There's alot of work involved and (despite her near 24/7 presence on the forum) I'm guessing she has plenty other jobs at the workshop to keep her occupied ;-)

Graeme

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