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janriviere
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Username: janriviere

Post Number: 91
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 6:30 am:   Edit Post

Who has experience with this Quicklok multiple guitar stand ?
I am currently using these Warwick Rockstands.
They are ok for my EVH signatures,
but my omega standard body shaped 6 string touches the floor with her omega tips.
I have a feeling that the quicklok stand is elevated a little bit higher?
Anyone using those? Does it fit for a full body shape with omega cut?

It would also be handy if I could leave the stereo cable in the bass, when I put her on the stand.
That is not possible with all guitar stands.
Cheers
Jan
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 227
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

Jan, a note of caution if I may, though I'm sure you've already thought of this. I would think leaving the cable in the bass on the stand increases the chance of an accident involving your bass. Especially on stage where others are rushing around with things on their minds other than your bass and that cable on the floor. There was a bass on Ebay some time ago that looked great except for the repair around the jack; and I can imagine what caused that repair. Someone could step on the cable causing it to violently pull at the jack; or someone could trip on the cable and pull the bass to the floor. I'm sure you've thought of this but I just thought I would express my concern. Of course I may just be overly cautious.
janriviere
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Username: janriviere

Post Number: 92
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 8:50 am:   Edit Post

Dave, you are completely right. I only let the cable in the bass at home, where it is 100% safe. So, those kinds of accidents will never happen at home. Me and my partner know "how to move" in the musical area at home ;-)

On stage is a different thing. If we play in small clubs, and my basses are put away in a small corner right next to the amps, so I can lead the cables after the amps, I let the cable plugged in. But you are absolute right, on stages where it is a complete mess, the cable + the bass go away until a second before the show. You can be sure, the very first thing I do before speaking to anyone after the show, is putting my basses in their case. But I appreciate that you mentioned it again, one cannot be cautious enough with that kind of instruments.

So, back on topic: any experiences with the Quicklok or other similar stands?

Cheers
Jan
malthumb
Intermediate Member
Username: malthumb

Post Number: 129
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 4:47 pm:   Edit Post

Here's my 3-bass stand in action. I have a point body and an omega body on it.

Triple Bass Stand
janriviere
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Username: janriviere

Post Number: 93
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 9:23 pm:   Edit Post

Thx for the feedback James.
What brand is that ?
And what is the maximum width of the neck that fits in there ?
malthumb
Intermediate Member
Username: malthumb

Post Number: 130
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post

Jan,

It's called an Ultra Stand and it's provided by Kaman Music Corp. The narrowest part of the neck hook is 2 1/2 inches. I think I paid about $40 or $50 for it at Motor City Guitars in Waterford, MI.
janriviere
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Username: janriviere

Post Number: 96
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 9:15 am:   Edit Post

2,5 inch (or 6,35 cm) should be fine for the 6 string. I'll have a look around how to get this in Europe. Thanks James.

By the way, is that your Hanewinkel on the left ?

Cheers
Jan
mattheus
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Username: mattheus

Post Number: 79
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 9:30 am:   Edit Post

Hi James,
you can leave the stand at home, just send me the basses.... ha, ha, ha

Mattheus
malthumb
Intermediate Member
Username: malthumb

Post Number: 131
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post

Jan,

Yeah, that's my Hanewinckel fretted 6 string. It's the same width at the nut as the Alembic 5 string point body. The bottom of the Alembic crown headstock is what actually rests in the neck hook. It fits in very well and should also for a 6 string. Can't imagine your headstock is much wider than mine at the base.

I went to kamanmusic.com, but for some reason I can't find the stand at their website.

Peace,

James
janriviere
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Username: janriviere

Post Number: 97
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 9:49 am:   Edit Post

Well, to be exact, the nut of my 6 string is 5,8 cm (2,28"). This is a comfort spacing.
The nut of my 5 string (normal spacing) is 5,2 cm 2,04").
I'll have a look on the net later. It's diner time here right now ;-)

Cheers
Jan

(Message edited by janriviere on December 06, 2003)
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 802
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 5:50 am:   Edit Post

Hey Brother Jan,

wouldn't it be great to have guitar "hangers" that you can "flick" out of your rig.Imagine Tweak Peaks with two kind of deplyable "hangers" on each side. When you tranport you click it f.i. on top of your rig so it does'nt disturb by driving the amp around. When you set it up you "flick" the holders like wings to left and right and you can hang your axes on it.
Com'on ...you're the kandy-man over here ...how can we fix this???
Paul the bad one
janriviere
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Username: janriviere

Post Number: 98
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 6:30 am:   Edit Post

I guess that this is the stand that James uses. I'll still have to find it in Europe.

Paul, I have some wall hangers at home, but for some reason I have never been keen on hanging my basses on the wall. The idea of finding them in peaces scares me ... So hangers on my rack ? ....mmmhh to dangerous for me.

Cheers
Jan
fmm
Junior
Username: fmm

Post Number: 25
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 7:53 am:   Edit Post

When I saw Gordon Johnson (Jimmy's brother) playing with Maynard Ferguson he had a stand that clamped to the top of his speaker cabinet, which was tall enough to hold his bass.

It was a cool setup. He would travel with his bass, Walter Woods amp, essential cords, strap, and stand all in a Haliburton bass case. Speaker cabs were provided by the venue. He could carry one item to the stage and have everything he needed for the gig.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 231
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 2:10 pm:   Edit Post

Paul; it's been done. Dave LaRue, the exceptionally talented bassplayer with the Steve Morse Band has a huge equipment rack. At the top of the rack are two hangers. I don't know whether they retract into the rack or whether they are attached at setup. Here are two pics. Unfortunately I couldn't find any with basses hanging from the hangers but when I've seen them live there are usually a couple. In the first pic you can clearly see the two hangers sticking up. In the second you can see the left hanger as it is attached to the rack.
http://www.stevemorse.com/newgallery/SmilingDavecleveland.htm
http://www.stevemorse.com/newgallery/DaveandJerry2e.htm
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 808
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Dave.

I'm gonna try to fix something like that.
Mmmm ...Dave Larue ...He got a column in bass-player and played with Ted Nugent too I think.

Paul the bad one
wideload
Junior
Username: wideload

Post Number: 12
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 9:03 pm:   Edit Post

Paul TBO:
This is a pic of the String Swing ($10 from Musician's Friend).swing1.jpg The plate screws to your head (or whatever is high enough on your stack). Its flat, so I've never had any problems when hauling gear. The hook screws into the plate at the gig, and your bass hangs there. swing2.jpg I used the side away from the edge of the stage, so my bass is protected from the great unwashed on breaks. NB: my amp head is about 37 lbs. and low profile, so the bass has NO chance of tipping. If you attach to a rack, consider the lowest mounting point that will serve your need, so that physics and gravity don't make this a "learning experience". I imagine you could hang basses from each side, and maybe 2 on the back if you'd like!
Larry (The Wide One)
wideload
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Username: wideload

Post Number: 13
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 9:47 pm:   Edit Post

Just a note:
The picture above was taken during the 4th set of "Free Beer for the Band" Night. Horizontal levitation- just another Alembic first!
Larry
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 811
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 2:04 am:   Edit Post

OK ...exactly what I need!!! I check where I can found some in EU.
(Hopeless ...I know THAT for sure).


Paul the Bad one
janriviere
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Username: janriviere

Post Number: 99
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 3:56 am:   Edit Post

Paul, take a look at the stringswing pics on http://www.jhs.co.uk/stringswing.html
I guess you could use the "CLAMP, STRAP AND CLIP-ON HANGERS" in the middle of the page. This could fit on your bass cabinets or on your rack I think.

I already emailed stringswing to know who imports this in Belgium ;-)

Cheers
Jan
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 812
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 4:09 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Jan.
What would I do without you???

I think these would be great! Well ...from my point of view of course.


Paul the bad one

janriviere
Member
Username: janriviere

Post Number: 100
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 4:19 am:   Edit Post

You're welcome Paul.
Indeed the first one would fit your Glockenklang cabs, the second one would fit my SWR cabs or 19" rack. I'll let you know when I receive news.
I'm just curious how safe the hook is attached.

Jan
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 813
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 4:35 am:   Edit Post

True!
Although the second one can be attached to my Amp-flight case which is higher from the ground. I think the handles on the side of the Glock (4x10) are not high enough because the underneath box "only" covers a 15".
Just a thought!
Keep me posted!
Really appreciate your help!

Next meeting my place???
I have some good wine, beer and espresso too!
And I'll invite some other Alembic dudes too!


BTW: I'll need 2 of those ...huh ....oh ....the clamps ...not the dudes LOL


Paul the bad one.

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