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californiaman
Junior
Username: californiaman

Post Number: 14
Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post

Thinking about selling my Spoiler. I'm wondering what a mint condition 5-string long scale Spoiler would sell for.
I can post pictures later.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8836
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:21 am:   Edit Post

It's been my observation that, as a gross generalization, Spoiler's trade on Ebay at an average of around $1,500. Also as a generalization, 5 string Alembics trade higher than 4 string Alembics. And a bass in mint condition with a nice top wood should trade higher as well. 34" Spoilers are a bit rare, as are five string Spoilers; and another factor buyers will consider is the neck taper. So what the bass would bring on Ebay, or Craigslist, or here, depends significantly on who happens to be in the market for this particular bass when it's listed, and on how patient you are.
kungfusheriff
Senior Member
Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 878
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post

Also, bear in mind that A) we're coming into the holiday season, when many people spend heavily on other people and not on personal enjoyment, and B) unemployment continues to rise and many are strapped.
californiaman
Junior
Username: californiaman

Post Number: 15
Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post

I'm probably going to keep it. It's too nice and I really enjoy playing it from time to time. Especially when I'm recording. Five-String Spoiler Bass w/Quilt Top
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8839
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post

Nice picture!

Why were you considering selling it?
robertodiazj
Junior
Username: robertodiazj

Post Number: 12
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post

Dave I am considering selling my Spoiler 5-string, So $1,800 is a good price for it??
What is the "neck taper"?
bigredbass
Senior Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1310
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 9:56 pm:   Edit Post

Roberto, ALEMBIC will list several 'tapers' in spec'ing how a particular axe was built or ordered. It's the fingerboard width at the nut by the width at the 24th fret. Both of my axes are what they call 'classic taper', which on a five string is 2" at the nut by 2.5" at the 24th fret: VERY little flare at the top of the fingerboard. They list a 'comfort taper' which is more like current practice with more flare at the top, 3" (Dave?) if I remember correctly.

These are standard options; of course, for a price they will make you ANY 'taper' you want, as well as neck profile.

But remember, friends:

There's custom with a little 'c': This is some combination of available options for which templates, etc., and prices alreacy exist.

Then there's Custom with a capital 'C': This is when your choices are utterly new, it's all new for them, where there is no previous development, templates, assembly methods done: Takes longer (maybe a LOT longer) and possibly a LOT more money. Nobody does this better than ALEMBIC, but it's just going to take more to accomplish a one-off than some combination of already on line features.
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 571
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 7:34 am:   Edit Post

"....for a price they will make you ANY 'taper' you want...."

Actually, Joey, according to the Quote Generator, a custom taper ("some limits")has no up-charge. Cool, or what?

Peter
terryc
Senior Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 1102
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 7:43 am:   Edit Post

californiaman..you will regret it in the future, I have a Honda Fireblade which is nearly 3 years old, it has only done 5k miles as it is my summer toy. It is bedded from Oct to Apr and I sometimes think I should sell it when I haven't been on it for a while but when I get on it then I enjoy it.
It has no loan on it and is immaculate so I keep it.
I know if I did sell it I would kick myself when I hear all the other bikes screaming on the road on a hot day.
Think of it as a life investment..pass it on to your kids(assuming you have some that is)
An Alembic is for life and not just for Christmas!!!
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8846
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post

Roberto; as Joey said, neck taper is how much the neck widens over its length, and it is measured at the nut and the 24th fret. And as Joey said, there are two standard tapers, the "classic" and the "comfort", and then there are custom tapers. Classic taper for a five string is 2.0" at the nut and 2.5" at the 24th fret. Comfort taper for a five string is 1.875" at the nut and 2.930" at the 24th fret. Classic taper was the standard through the 70's and 80's, and is thus found on Series I and II, and on Persuader, Spoiler, Elan, and Distillate models. In response to the growing popularity of slapping, in the 90's the Comfort taper was introduced on the new Essence, Rogue, Europa, Epic, Excel, and Orion models. Signature models traditionally have had Classic tapers; however, with the advent of the Balance K bodies, many now have Comfort tapers. And then there have always been Custom ordered tapers.
robertodiazj
Junior
Username: robertodiazj

Post Number: 13
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks! Bigredbass and Dave


(Message edited by robertodiazj on October 08, 2009)
longhorncat
Advanced Member
Username: longhorncat

Post Number: 343
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 8:21 am:   Edit Post

A 5-string Persuader just sold on eBay for $1650.
It had a fairly rare J/J pickup configuration, but your Spoiler should sell for at least that amount, plus maybe $100 more.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160365681001

californiaman
Junior
Username: californiaman

Post Number: 16
Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for the reply fellows.
I'm pretty sure she's staying in the family for a while longer.
The only way I'd get rid of her is to trade her for a Les Paul Custom or a Marshall Silver Jubille or Bogner Shiva amplifier.
No... I'm not particular. No.
Just know what I like. And I do like my bass.
californiaman
Junior
Username: californiaman

Post Number: 17
Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post

And I do have children and at least one of them has his eyes on it.
gogi
New
Username: gogi

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 8:32 am:   Edit Post

hi people.i am from serbia.i have one alembic spoiler,but one pick up is corrupt.gave is whom notably where that purchase pick up in europe.thanks
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 8933
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Goran; welcome to the board!

I'm not certain that I understand your comment, but my guess is that you have a bad pickup and you are looking for a replacement.

Alembic dealers in Europe include Bass Connection in Holland, Station Music in Germany, and Bassworld in England.

If you haven't already, you can check to make sure the problem is the pickup and not something else by carefully switching the pickup leads in the control cavity. You may want to start a thread in our Troubleshooting section if you're not certain it's the pickup.

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