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senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 149
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 7:28 am:   Edit Post

Hi Mica, hi Val, hi guys,

as Mica promised to send us a little christmas present during the weekend, the JAE pics, I thought I should do the same.
Below plse find my little christmas present for you all, a very rare photo of John Entwistle with his original Spyder 8....

And yes Mica, my photo collection of Alembic Spyders is not the smallest, but I am eager to see yours.....

JAE and original Spyder 8
mattheus
Member
Username: mattheus

Post Number: 81
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 7:44 am:   Edit Post

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Speechless


Thanks Oliver.
bigredbass
Advanced Member
Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 209
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post

I always thought it was an insight into his personality: Either it was a total lack of ego to inlay the notes on the fingerboard, or that he wanted to make you think he needed them !

God Rest John Entwistle.

J o e y
811952
Junior
Username: 811952

Post Number: 40
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 7:54 am:   Edit Post

Anybody have a copy of Too Late The Hero? That album sealed the deal for me - I HAD to have an Alembic! I recall it had a lot of 8-string bass on it...
John
senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 150
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post

John,
of course I have it. Originally since 1982.
Some of my friends say, it is poor due to the
texts and simple music.
But to me it is explosive and one of his best bass playing albums.

Oliver
jet_powers
Member
Username: jet_powers

Post Number: 96
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the pics Spyderman! That is of course, one of the coolest basses ever. Only fitting for JAE was the coolest bass guitarist ever.

My copy of TLTH does sound bad. That's because I wore out the vinyl trying to learn his licks. I really should get that on CD if it's available...

JAE was also the reason I had to have an Alembic.

John Paul
senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 151
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 1:21 pm:   Edit Post

John Paul,
of course the TLTH is available on CD!
And yes also this made me want an Alembic Spyder since the very first time I saw him playing them...

Oliver
rockandroller
Member
Username: rockandroller

Post Number: 68
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 9:38 pm:   Edit Post

TLTH is my favorite JE album.. you can buy it on amazon along with several more JE records ( including The Rock, Left for Live, the King Biscuit Show...) :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/002-0849107-0013629
dfung60
Junior
Username: dfung60

Post Number: 24
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 9:12 pm:   Edit Post

Yum.

This appears to be the graphite Exploiter-8. I believe this one had a very small photo on the letters page of Guitar Player mag years ago (before there was a Bass Player magazine!).

David Fung
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 1332
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Oliver,

Val's searching on Friday didn't yield any pics I could positively identify as John's, but I did post a few other goodies he found in new thread. Sorry we didn't find anything this time, but you know that as soon as I've got them we'll post them here right away. I will take a shot tomorrow of the poster of TLTH my mom has in her office.

David - I don't think this one is the graphite one, the front of the peghead is vermilion, but see the purpleheart laminates in the neck? Usually the graphite basses had a large bound neck overlay.
senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 152
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 6:48 am:   Edit Post

Hi Mica, hi John, hi all,
donīt mind about the pics Mica. The ones you posted in the other thread are great!
As for the Spyder 8, to my knowledge John only had this particular ONE Spyder 8. This above shown is the same that is shown on the group shots with a big part of his then collection.
This Spyder 8 definetely has no graphite neck.
Mica, something that is still of strong interest for me is the electronics on the JAE Spyders.
You told me once about an old thread where you explained the electronics but I canīt find it.
Could you explain to me again the two pots and the switch on the lower horn?

Oliver (Spyderman)
dnburgess
Intermediate Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 159
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post

Oliver

Thought you might be interested in an interview with Greg Lake in the November 2003 issue of (British) Guitar Magazine, which includes the following:

Lake's claim that he's 'not really a collector' is borne out by the fact that none of the basses he used in the 70s and 80s - a Fender Jazz in King Crimson, then Alembics later on in ELP - are still in his possession....
'If I don't play 'em, I get rid of them,' he explains. 'Like the eight-string Alembic - I sold that to John Entwistle.'
davehouck
Advanced Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 270
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 2:01 pm:   Edit Post

Speaking of Greg Lake and King Crimson, his bass work on 21st Century Schizoid Man is really nice. The instrumental section of that song is one of my all time favorites.
811952
Junior
Username: 811952

Post Number: 42
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 2:07 pm:   Edit Post

Greg Lake is very underrated in my book. Tarkus on a long-scale 8-string with a pick at the speed Emerson played it live? And he sings too? Very, very underrated. That 8-string, BTW, was the very first 8-string I had ever seen.. And I LOVE Fanfare for the Common Man - great bass!!!
John
davehouck
Advanced Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 272
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 2:47 pm:   Edit Post

Tarkus is one of my all time favorite albums! Unfortunately I'm not sure I've even ever heard their version of Fanfare for the Common Man.
811952
Junior
Username: 811952

Post Number: 43
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post

I think Works Volume I has Fanfare. I read in several places that it was recorded with a stereo mic during a practice run-through by a sneaky engineer and that they decided to keep the take. I don't know if it's true or not (it may well be). My little brother is friends with K. E. and his manager/tech, so I should probably just ask him to ask. It does make a good story.. :-) My brother did a saxophone quartet arrangement of Tarkus (for his wife's sax quartet) which Keith apparently liked..
John
dnburgess
Intermediate Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 160
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post

The story about the recording of Fanfare could well be true based on the sound quality which is not up to the usual ELP engineering standards. And I always thought they engineered it that way to make it sound more fanfareish and more common.

I still don't think you can go past the self-titled first album. I was working in a hi-fi shop at the time and the end of the drum solo in Tank was our standard test of cartridge tracking ability and low end transient repsonse. Linn Sondek + biamped via massive power amps + Infinity RS 4.5 speakers = heaven.

Sounds terrible on CD - hmmm, better check to see if there's an SACD version.
senmen
Intermediate Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 156
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 2:48 am:   Edit Post

Hi Dave,
many thanks for your info on the Greg Lake 8string.
To my knowledge Greg Lake had two Alembic eight strings with a very similar design.
The first one, buildt around 1976, was in longer posession of Greg Lake and is currently on display at the London Hard Rock Cafe. This particular one is shown in the Bass Book of Tony Bacon on page 41.
The mentioned 8string Greg talked about which he had sold to John was of a very similar design and this particular one had pirate motifs on the fingerboard. This bass was auctioned this year in the Sothebys auction for GBP 10800
(see auction catalogue page 89).

Many greetings
Oliver (Spyderman)
rogertvr
Intermediate Member
Username: rogertvr

Post Number: 172
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 9:14 am:   Edit Post

Two very nice pics at the top of this thread. Is that a Mini-Moog I see to the left of the Spyder on the top pic?
bracheen
Member
Username: bracheen

Post Number: 63
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post

There are several pictures of Greg Lake & his Alembics on his website.
http://greglake.com
Thanks for the great JE photos, Oliver. An interesting side on the note names on his fretboard, I was watching the Rock Hall of Fame '03 inductions this morning. During their bit on The Clash I noticed that bass player had note names on his PBass. It immediately brought Mr Entwistle to mind.

Sam
davehouck
Advanced Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 280
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post

Sam; interesting site. Thanks.
811952
Junior
Username: 811952

Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 6:45 pm:   Edit Post

My brother Pete tells me that Greg Lake has been doing some work with the remaining members of the Who, mostly charity stuff. Townsend, Lake and Daltrey?
John
dnburgess
Intermediate Member
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 164
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 3:14 am:   Edit Post

Oliver - I should have known you'd already be on top of it.

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