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lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4427
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post

Just curious what settings you use to get the "Jerry" tone?

Bill, tgo
pace
Senior Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 542
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post

This is kind of subjective, don't you think Bill?

I mean there's the pre-retirement years w/ Wolf...

There's post retirement Mesa-Boogie years....

There's early 80's Tiger years.....

Late 80's and 90's w/ Midi & Rosebud....

etc etc etc.....

Goin' through the archives, there's several different "tones" as they relate to Jerry, and Alembic Activator electronics were never really part of that equation..... For me so far, either a tele or strat into a F2B>SF-2>Mesa 2:90>2x12"EV's has been a good reference for that '72-'74 sound....
hydrargyrum
Senior Member
Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 801
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 8:06 am:   Edit Post

Mike has a good point about the era of the guitars he used, but what about the electronics? I thought Jerry ultimately favored Dimarzio's and a unity buffered preamp. Quite unlike what you find in an Alembic, unless I am much mistaken. Was there a time period when he favored the style of filters found on Alembic intstruments?

There's much to be said about his tone coming from his hands, of course. His playing was instantly recognizable, regardless of the instrument. But that discussion has been observed here many times.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4428
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post

Yes, it is subjective. And yes, Jerry used different guitars and rigs. That being said, subjectively, I'm still curious about the settings Tribute and Further players use to get the, (admittedly subjective), Jerry tone. 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, Guild, LP, Alligator, Wolf, Tiger, Rosebud, Bolt, whatever. So which subjective pickups do you use? Subjective middle position or subjective bright position? Where do you set your subjective volume control? Your subjective filters?

Subjectively,

Bill, tgo
pace
Senior Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 545
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 9:20 am:   Edit Post

SLMAO..... :-)
crobbins
Senior Member
Username: crobbins

Post Number: 621
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post

When I play my Tribute, I plug it into my Boogie amp and adjust the settings till it sounds good to my ear. I don't even think about the "Jerry tone"...
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4430
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post

Anyone? No one?

Bill, tgo
paulman
Senior Member
Username: paulman

Post Number: 435
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post

Hi Bill. Here's what I try to do...

I bought a bunch of Adamas Graphite/Carbon fiber 2mm picks and generally only play with those.

I am also using 11-48 strings. When I strum or play single notes I try (TRY!) to add some vibrato to the strings via finger movement.

For amp I am using the Epiphone Valve JR head and Cabinet (the one I brought to the gathering last year) modified for extra high end output. Only one knob so simplicity is nice! I keep it at about 3-4 o'clock on the dial.

No eq on the guitar effect! Only the Further Filters do my equalization. The Further volume control works great with the Valve JR and adds extra expression as the amp naturally overdrives when you crank the guitar

Run the whole thing through a Bose PS-1 with flat EQ settings.

And then I sound just like...ME! But they tell me I get the Jerry tone sometimes.
benson_murrensun
Advanced Member
Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 279
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post

I heard Jerry used a pick made of agate.
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2493
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 9:49 am:   Edit Post

If you want to hear the Jerry tone, why not play one of his recordings?

:-p
cje
Junior
Username: cje

Post Number: 42
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 9:58 am:   Edit Post

Todd Lena from Grateful Friends got a pretty convincing Jerry tone from his Furthur. In fact, to my ears, it's probably the closest I've heard:

http://www.gratefulfriends.com/

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