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bob2
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Username: bob2

Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post

does anyone know what kind of wattage comes out of an f1-x and/or an f2-b? i can't seem to find the info.

second question, what kind of wattage can you put into the input side of a power amp?

i'm curious mostly cause i have a fifteen watt tube amp that i like the tone of. it's just not loud enough for much more than practicing.
a follow up question would be: what part of the circuit gets a pre-amp out attached to it?

ok, thanks.
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1062
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post

The F-1X & F-2B have pre-amp level outputs measured usually in VOLTS. (ask Alembic for exact specs ) They are preamps ! You can use the preamp in your effects in and use the effects loop if it has one . If there is no effects loop then use the ALEMBIC preamps as a front end for your signal on your amp and go through the low gain (-? DB) input on the front if it has one . If there is not a low gain input on the front then just use the regular instrument input. Be careful and have the Alembic volume controls @ 0 first and turn up to taste but be careful ; the Alembic Preamps are capable of a HOT output!
I prefer to use the Alembic Preamps with a power amp .
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1063
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post

+4dBu=1.228 volts
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-db-volt.htm
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1064
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post

Here is another link to help with terminology
NO question is Dumb! ___________ Smart people are the ones with the Questions!
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Searchengine.htm

Sonic Regards !
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9387
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post

What kind of amp do you have?
bob2
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Username: bob2

Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post

thanks for the answers. :-)

the 15 watter is an orange tiny terror. i'm wondering if i can plug the output into a power amp. i know orange makes bigger amps and cabs and such, it's not quite the same though.

also, i have this feeling that i have developed gear acquisition syndrome and am just in temporary denial.
bob2
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Username: bob2

Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post

oh, i found specs for the f2b. from the alembic manual in the FAQ section, here: http://www.alembic.com/support/F2B_manual.pdf

specifications
input sensitivity (voltage required for line level output, using input #1, 1 khz, volume and tone controls at maximum): 8mv RMS

output level - nominal: line level (1 v rms) maximum voltage swing: 150 v peak to peak

input impedance: inputs #1: 1 megohm
inputs #2: 136 k ohm

output impedance: stereo outs: 40k
mono out: 90k

power requirements: 10 watts
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 811
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post

Just to be clear, are you asking if you can plug the second speaker output from a tiny terror into a poweramp? Because I believe that would be a definite problem. If I understand correctly, the signal would have to be attenuated by something like a THD hot plate, and then the line out from the attenuator could be used with a power amp, P/A, etc.

If you are asking if an F2-B output can be ran directly with a power amp, then the answer is yes.
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2510
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post

Is it an urban myth, or can one actually drive a not-too-large cab with the output from the Super Filter?
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9395
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post

Adriaan; I would think you would need a power amp.
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 657
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post

I've never heard that urban myth. I'd be shocked if you could do that (or maybe it's a very small cabinet). The F2B would have a better chance of getting away with this, but I can't imagine being very satisfied with the results.
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 812
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post

I would think headphones would be more likely than a cab. But talk about a sweet headphone amp. :-)
gtrguy
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Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 302
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 9:17 pm:   Edit Post

You can take one of those 12 volt Zinky cigarette (sp?) amps and drive a 4x12 marshall cab! I've done it!
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4476
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 9:24 pm:   Edit Post

Do you mean the Smokie amp? I have one. The little sucker really does drive a 4x12 cab!

Bill, tgo
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 818
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 6:33 am:   Edit Post

On the topic of tiny amps, the Zvex Nano amp is 1/2 watt, all tube, and can easily drive a cab. I wouldn't say it's loud enough to compete with a drummer without mic'ing though.

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