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adimanto
Junior
Username: adimanto

Post Number: 19
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post

hi there for a new 34"scale witch shape i have tp prefer,someone have said that the standard point have neck dive and bad balance ,and the balance k have better balance,i prefer the standard point looks too much vintage and cool!suggestions please!
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 615
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post

I love the Standard Point look. However, the upper horn is not very long which causes it to "hang" towards the neck. This causes the bass to be a bit neck heavy and makes the first position a bit of a reach. I overcame this by wearing the bass a little higher on my body than I normally would. I've never played a Balance K, but the upper horn is long enough that I suspect it balances much as a Fender would.
dadabass2001
Senior Member
Username: dadabass2001

Post Number: 1469
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 8:49 am:   Edit Post

The discussion of "neck-dive" usually refers to basses made with the "small standard body" (like the Stanley Clarke models) but with a medium to long neck instead of Stanley's 30.75" scale. Several people have said that using a wide strap helps the balance issue.
The Standard Point body was one of the original Alembic shapes. A 34" scale shouldn't be a problem with it. Some folks feel the body is quite large, hence the creation of the small standard shape.
Mike
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9498
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 2:14 pm:   Edit Post

Alan; you can get a standard point body with an extended upper horn. It's called a balanced point body. I think there may be other similar alternatives too, like the pistol grip upper horn.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 6843
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post

The Standard Point shape was originally designed as a 32" medium scale. It works very well in that scale, and the left hand reach is similar to that of other 34" scale basses (like a Jazz bass).

The longer upper horn (and wider body) of the Balance Point will work very well in 34 or longer scale lengths. This bass is an example of the Balance Point body shape (though this one has an Omega carving).
adimanto
Junior
Username: adimanto

Post Number: 20
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post

and the balance k?
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 6844
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 3:57 pm:   Edit Post

The Balance K is specifically designed to have an "Alembic look" but with the offset cutaways, and the upper horn length, it balances great in 4- 5- 6-string versions and extended scale lengths. It's what it was meant to do.

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